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Loving the Disco 3 but I also have a new springer spaniel that doesn't know car etiquette. While she's in a harness when she's in the Disco, there's just enough play in the harness for her to be able to reach and punch down on the hill descent mode and/or change the other settings. I've ghetto fixed it with gaffer tape and an old plastic lunchbox which means her paws can't get near the controls.
Is there something official that does the same job ?
7th Apr 2017 8:43 am
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Don't blame the dog or the Disco, blame the trainer!It can when others can't,
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7th Apr 2017 9:23 am
Robbie
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flamesnm wrote:
Is there something official that does the same job ?
The official something is this:
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Rule 58 of the Highway Code deals with travelling with pets and states:
“When in a vehicle make sure dogs or other animals are suitably restrained so they cannot distract you while you are driving or injure you, or themselves, if you stop quickly. A seat belt harness, pet carrier, dog cage or dog guard are ways of restraining animals in cars.”
Potential Offences
Whilst breaching the Highway Code is not necessarily an offence in itself, there are a number of offences that could potentially arise as result of driving with an unrestrained pet. A motorist could be considered to be driving ‘without due care and attention’ if it was felt that their standard of driving fell below that expected of a competent driver or that they did not show “reasonable” consideration for other road users. There is no definitive list of actions that can amount to careless driving however a distracting unrestrained dog jumping about in a vehicle could definitely be considered to sufficient.
More concerning is the potential for an accident and if that were to arise, the more serious offence of dangerous driving could be applicable. The penalty for dangerous driving is far more severe as the offence attracts not only a custodial sentence but also a mandatory disqualification of at least twelve months.
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7th Apr 2017 11:42 am
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You lot are fun. Seems the car is good but the people who drive them and populate this forum are a bunch of .
There is no need for this or the insult in response to M3DPO; both M3DPO and Robbie are respected members who have helped lots of us with tricky problems and great mods. Guess you will not be in that category now.Discovery 4 Landmark ‘16
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Loving the Disco 3 but I also have a new springer spaniel that doesn't know car etiquette. While she's in a harness when she's in the Disco, there's just enough play in the harness for her to be able to reach and punch down on the hill descent mode and/or change the other settings. I've ghetto fixed it with gaffer tape and an old plastic lunchbox which means her paws can't get near the controls.
Is there something official that does the same job ?
This forum is normally very helpful. I hope the first reply was meant in jest as it does seem you have taken the right measures so far.
Options I would consider are:
1. move the dog to the boot and consider a dog guard to stop her climbing over the rear seats into the main cabin. Advantage is it keeps everyone safe and when she gets muddy, the cabin doesn't suffer. Disadvantage is it limits access to the rear 2 seats if you use these.
2. Harness the dog into one of the rear seats. There shouldn't be enough length in the harness to let her reach the controls. The leash bit which goes back to the seat belt buckle should be short to avoid her flying around in the event of an accident and injuring herself/other occupants.
3. if she is harnessed into the front passenger seat, again, shorten the leash bit if you can. Even tying a few knots into it would do the job although given the proximity of the controls and the seat belt buckle, you may not be able to get it short enough.
There is no official or even unofficial cover that I am aware of as normally there isn't an issue with accidently contacting the controls. I can imagine the dog doing this and moving around is quite distracting for the driver (hence the highway code guidance above) so personally I would remove the cause rather than try to prevent the effect. ie dog in the boot or rear seats, restrained by a guard or a short harness leash.
PS: as said above, try to keep the head calm and be respectful. lashing out the insults wont help.
well put especially the last line in my humble opinion the only safe place for a dog is in the boot, with a dog guard and restraint.
This forum is normally very helpful. I hope the first reply was meant in jest as it does seem you have taken the right measures so far.
Options I would consider are:
1. move the dog to the boot and consider a dog guard to stop her climbing over the rear seats into the main cabin. Advantage is it keeps everyone safe and when she gets muddy, the cabin doesn't suffer. Disadvantage is it limits access to the rear 2 seats if you use these.
2. Harness the dog into one of the rear seats. There shouldn't be enough length in the harness to let her reach the controls. The leash bit which goes back to the seat belt buckle should be short to avoid her flying around in the event of an accident and injuring herself/other occupants.
3. if she is harnessed into the front passenger seat, again, shorten the leash bit if you can. Even tying a few knots into it would do the job although given the proximity of the controls and the seat belt buckle, you may not be able to get it short enough.
There is no official or even unofficial cover that I am aware of as normally there isn't an issue with accidently contacting the controls. I can imagine the dog doing this and moving around is quite distracting for the driver (hence the highway code guidance above) so personally I would remove the cause rather than try to prevent the effect. ie dog in the boot or rear seats, restrained by a guard or a short harness leash.
PS: as said above, try to keep the head calm and be respectful. lashing out the insults wont help.Range Rover Westminster 4.4 TDV8 what a car
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7th Apr 2017 12:27 pm
Robbie
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flamesnm wrote:
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Rule 58 of the Highway Code deals with travelling with pets and states:
“When in a vehicle make sure dogs or other animals are suitably restrained so they cannot distract you while you are driving or injure you, or themselves, if you stop quickly. A seat belt harness, pet carrier, dog cage or dog guard are ways of restraining animals in cars.”
Gosh. Maybe you'd like to report me ? I sometimes break other elements of the highway code as well.
You lot are fun. Seems the car is good but the people who drive them and populate this forum are a bunch of .
I'm not interested in reporting you, only answering your question regarding your identified safety issue. If you follow the code and suitably restrain your dog then you will have no problems with the dog operating vehicle controls or distracting you.
Safety may not be much fun but we are trying to help you, your passengers and your pet. Once everyone is safe you can go out and have fun with your vehicle.
I'm sorry you hold some of us in such low regard.Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
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Bravo M3DPO. That's pretty judgemental. I wasn't blaming anyone, especially not a 5 month old puppy who's only just taken to being in the car without throwing up.
Seems even the Land Rover forums have dicks who can't not post.
Sorry if I upset you no personal offence was intended but sometimes the truth hurts, I use the phrase "don't blame the dog blame the trainer" often to drill into dog owners that pets can be trained to do what their owners want them to do with a little discipline and thought.
At 5 months a pup should know where it's place is in the car, the doggie bit at the rear and what areas are out of bounds, seats and definitely not the front even if restrained. It's great them getting on a seat on a nice sunny day but not so good when they've just done a 5 mile walk across muddy fields and he decides to do a projectile vomit or worse from the other end .
Buy a cheap cage, never ever let the pup travel anywhere else but in the cage, thats his home for traveling at all times and I will guarantee within three weeks of continual use and a walk off a lead at the end he will not want to get in the front.
I have four dogs and none of them will get in the front even when the door is open and told to, I can leave them in the doggie bit unrestrained when I am not travelling (washing the car for instance) for any amount of time weather permitting and they will not jump over the rear seats, purely simple disipline.
It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
Actually I forgot about a cage. Great way of containing the dog and inevitable mud safely within the car.
7th Apr 2017 1:43 pm
M3DPO
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Lightweight, safe, quickly and simply folds down if needed, comes in all sizes and the dogs like them. It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
7th Apr 2017 2:32 pm
flamesnm
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Got my answer. "No, there isn't".
So apologies for the generalisation and thanks to the people who've provided helpful responses. To those that didn't I'm sure I could take a look at something you're doing where I have expertise and you have none and tell you you're doing it wrong in a high handed manner.
Have a nice weekend everyone.
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7th Apr 2017 4:12 pm
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I can only presume you are having a bad day and this is coming out in your posts.
It is not safe to have a puppy on the front passenger seat so try to find an alternative that works for you and your dog.Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
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