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Nato tow hitch - emergency tow adapter

Following on from a spate of breakdowns ( Evil or Very Mad ) after a recent engine swap , a big issue has been the NATO tow hitch on my trailer

None of the recovery firms have the facilitiy to tow it ( apart from on a low loader )

This idea was suggested on my last breakdown in Scotland , were I ended up unable to use my trailer for my holiday Big Cry




Simple enough I thought .. but in reality iv not got a tow ball 2 feet high ( and remember this is to be able to tow my trailer with a normal height towbar !)

So this is how far out they are








Center line heights

NATO ring - 24 "
Holder under NATO ring - 22"
Tow ball - 16"

So a grand total of 8 " difference in height

I can allow for a bit of nose down height .. but not 8"

If I did something like this .. would it be strong enough ?




Or has any one got any ideas / suggestions to overcome this issue

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Just throwing this one out there, what about permanently adopting the trailer to a lower hitch height like done before? Still keep nato hitch but easier to adapt?
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Hello,

What I have done is to remove the ring/plunger shaft which on my trailer is 45mm o/d and had an engineer friend machine me a new plunger (out of solid chromed 45mm bar) but with 2 holes at the receiver/ring end to take an E marked Knott NATO bolt on ring hitch. I carry a 50mm ball hitch of the same bolt pattern and in an emergency for 2 bolts and I can be rescued!! It does help a little that my trailer has a stepped drawbar, but a friend has done the same on a standard sankey and it gets him home!
  
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JackNorris wrote:
Just throwing this one out there, what about permanently adopting the trailer to a lower hitch height like done before? Still keep nato hitch but easier to adapt?


Rather keep the sankey nato hitch the same height ... coupled with uncle Rays tow hitch it tows like a dream Thumbs Up
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Deerfold wrote:
Hello,

What I have done is to remove the ring/plunger shaft which on my trailer is 45mm o/d and had an engineer friend machine me a new plunger (out of solid chromed 45mm bar) but with 2 holes at the receiver/ring end to take an E marked Knott NATO bolt on ring hitch. I carry a 50mm ball hitch of the same bolt pattern and in an emergency for 2 bolts and I can be rescued!! It does help a little that my trailer has a stepped drawbar, but a friend has done the same on a standard sankey and it gets him home!


Any pics ?
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This might be too complicated to be practical but one could build a dolly that hitches to a 50mm towball. On the dolly would be a frame that carried a NATO hitch at the appropriate height. The Sankey (or whatever) would then become a four wheel draw bar trailer. These used to be subject to a 30mph speed limit but one sees them nowadays frequently travelling at much higher speeds.
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Adrian if this is purely for a recovery truck use in case of breakdown?
Would the height to your D4 matter because you can adjust the height on a recovery truck tow hook ! you just need the NATO ring to ball coupling conversion to keep with you just in case ?
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Wouldn't it be easier to do something like this?

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Would adapting/manufacturing something like this be an option?



http://www.allfourx4.com.au/Tow-Hitch-Tow-...over-Sport

Could you not rotate the tow hitch in the receiver by 180 degrees and then put the tow ball back on? It might not give you 8" but might take you some of the way there?

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Scrap that. Just re-read your post Embarassed Rolling with laughter
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Simon (Sailorboy), extended his hitch and converted to std hitch, the extension helped with the height Thumbs Up
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if it's for recovery only ... what's the OTHER end of the trailer like ? could you bolt something to chasis there that could take a standard tow socket?
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SHARKYSHARKS wrote:
Adrian if this is purely for a recovery truck use in case of breakdown?
Would the height to your D4 matter because you can adjust the height on a recovery truck tow hook ! you just need the NATO ring to ball coupling conversion to keep with you just in case ?


Dave , its more for me to use a hire car to continue my journey with the trailer

if the trailer needed recovering , they would just put it on a flat bed
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Navigator wrote:
This might be too complicated to be practical but one could build a dolly that hitches to a 50mm towball. On the dolly would be a frame that carried a NATO hitch at the appropriate height. The Sankey (or whatever) would then become a four wheel draw bar trailer. These used to be subject to a 30mph speed limit but one sees them nowadays frequently travelling at much higher speeds.


trying to keep this as portable as poss...but good idea though Thumbs Up
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