Google translate will change to English but it basically found over 15kmh AEB was ineffective Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW
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30th Oct 2017 1:14 am
J77
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Doesn’t surprise me nothing works on LRs.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
30th Oct 2017 9:36 am
Robbie
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Google translate...
Quote:
Land Rover's new Discovery was equipped with car bombs.
But failed to brake at all.
After the car of the year jury's big car bomb test, Land Rover has launched an internal survey of its cars.
Land Rover Discovery had tougher. Despite the fact that the car is equipped with a car boot system, the test car failed to brake the balloon car at 15 km / h or higher. The test group made another test that went even worse.
Yep, got it.Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
I guess we all know that "AEB" is Autonomous Emergency Braking which relies on forward facing cameras.
For what it's worth Land Rover say:-
Quote:
The AEB system will not operate if:
Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) is switched off.
The vehicle's speed is below 3 mph (5 km/h) or above 50 mph (80 km/h).
The detected object is not identified as a vehicle.
The AEB system may not operate if:
The vehicle is negotiating a bend.
The forward-facing cameras are dirty or obstructed.
Visibility is impaired due to severe weather conditions (for example, heavy rain, fog, snow, etc.).
I'm not sure which vehicles have AEB, certainly the Velar, Discovery 5 & possibly the Discovery Sport.
NJSSAm I Gammon or Woke ? - I neither know nor care.
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none Electric or H2 fuel cell - yet.
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30th Oct 2017 11:18 am
ruben D3 Decade
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having doubts of operation with a system like the AEB... is something extremely serious!!! ... its use in a confident or reckless driver... I do not even want to imagine lost in translation!
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The Autonomous Emergency Braking (AEB) system uses forward-facing cameras to detect real vehicles, plus other certified Euro NCAP target objects. It is not designed to detect any other objects, including non-industry approved targets.
Quote:
In order for the AEB system to operate, it must be able to detect a clear image of the object and be able to determine its movement. If either of these does not occur, the AEB system may not operate.
From the above it appears that AEB works for real vehicles & NCAP targets which have to be moving.
It appears that it won't recognise a stationery pedestrian, and it is not apparent that it will recognise a moving pedestrian.
NJSSAm I Gammon or Woke ? - I neither know nor care.
2016 Discovery 4 Landmark
2011 Mercedes Benz SL350 (R230)
1973 MG B GT V8 - 3.9L John Eales engine, 5 speed R380 gearbox, since 1975.
1959 MGA roadster - 1.9L Peter Burgess Engine - 5 speed gearbox
Past LRs - Multiple FFRs, Discos & a Series I - some petrol, some diesel,
none Electric or H2 fuel cell - yet.
There are 10 types of people in this world: Those who understand binary, and those who don’t.
30th Oct 2017 12:20 pm
L319
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I am afraid that now all vehicles are designed to meet "statutory" legislation rather than the real world.
30th Oct 2017 12:29 pm
ruben D3 Decade
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NJSS wrote:
....The Autonomous Emergency Braking (AEB) system uses forward-facing cameras to detect real vehicles, plus other certified Euro NCAP target objects. It is not designed to detect any other objects.....
It appears that it won't recognise a stationery pedestrian, and it is not apparent that it will recognise a moving pedestrian.
NJSS
I'm not talking about LR now.... I'm just saying that then many manufacturers use misleading advertising, we continually see advertisements where they use pedestrians to talk about these novel security systemslost in translation!
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30th Oct 2017 12:38 pm
RRSTDV8
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The tests do use a pedestrian simulation which is supposed to have radar and IR similarities to a real pedestrian.
To be honest, I think even if the system reduces the impact t speed appreciably it is a good thing. Yes, a full stop before impact would be ideal but better to be hit at 10mph than 30mph, for example.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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[quote="NJSS"]I guess we all know that "AEB" is Autonomous Emergency Braking which relies on forward facing cameras.
For what it's worth Land Rover say:-
Quote:
The AEB system will not operate if:
[...]
The detected object is not identified as a vehicle.
[...]
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