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Dilemma......
Apologies, I know this has raised its head many times before but here I go anyway.
I currently drive a D4 2013 SDV6 3.0L.
I do around 8000 miles a year, split around 50/50 between motorway and city driving. I do very little light towing.
Heres my point:-
I am looking to order a D5 HSE for delivery on 1st March 2019.
My huge delima is which engine due to the oil dilution issues which are quite huge it appears.The TDV6 is being phased out and being replaced with the SDV6, however I am unable to gain any information due due to the newness.
The other alternative is the SD4 which has no oil issues, two years between services but doesn’t have the grunt of the 3.0L V6.
Peoples thoughts are appreciated.
Mark
With the current wave of opinion against ICE vehicles I wouldn't buy one.
Likewise EV's, PHEV's etc are all early in their development cycle.
I would hang on to the D4, taking out a decent warranty if necessary, and postpone a decision for at least a couple more years.
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25th Oct 2018 8:17 am
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I’ve got a 2lt 240 D5 and do a little light towing and it’s perfect. It doesn’t suffer from the problems the 3lt does, which is why I bought it.
25th Oct 2018 8:45 am
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If you don't think the 2.0 has 'grunt' then compare it to the D4 3.0 you'll be getting out of .....the 2.0 is considerably more nimble and once you are out of 1st you really wouldn't know it wasn't a larger engine. Very smooth through the 8 speed box 8)
25th Oct 2018 8:58 am
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25th Oct 2018 9:08 am
Bigcol66
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Didn't the 2.0 litre diesel in the Disco Sport have oil dilution issues? Surely LR have sorted it in the 3.0 by now?
25th Oct 2018 10:18 am
bammmy
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Hi Bigcol66,
I think the earlier 2.0L that they put in other vehicles had the problem. The one they put in a D5 is one called SD4, I think LR have dropped the earlier version now.🤔
25th Oct 2018 10:25 am
robpenrose
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Be careful with LR and their engine names.
They are often all the same units. The ‘new’ SDV6 in the D5 is the same as the D4 with a few more ponies squeezed out of it. The TDV6 in the D5 is the same engine, with single turbo.
If I was going for a D5, I would probably go for a 2.0l to avoid the oil dilution problems and probably crank issues.
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25th Oct 2018 10:28 am
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Though the Ingenium engines are not without issues too, oil dilution aside...My D3 Build Thread
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25th Oct 2018 12:03 pm
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There are claims of excessive engine wear on the DS models...though not seen any evidence of it in the D5 yet
25th Oct 2018 12:18 pm
LT
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NJSS wrote:
With the current wave of opinion against ICE vehicles I wouldn't buy one.
Likewise EV's, PHEV's etc are all early in their development cycle.
I would hang on to the D4, taking out a decent warranty if necessary, and postpone a decision for at least a couple more years.
NJSS
Assuming your D4 is low mileage, I'd go along with NJSS.
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25th Oct 2018 12:27 pm
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2.0 is fine in the D5 I've driven one quite a lot, there is a knack to getting it going which I think is why first impressions for D4 owners isn't alway great. Depends what you do with your Disco, I Tow a lot and tried the 2.0 it wasn't powerful enough or my liking, don't think its workhorse in that department and would go for 3.0L.MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
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25th Oct 2018 5:07 pm
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RDR-That's interesting to hear as I've been impressed by the 2.0L in the D5's I've driven. BUT, I only drove them either on my own or with one passenger. Fully laden or towing and I suspected it wouldn't be so impressive, which you've confirmed.
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25th Oct 2018 6:12 pm
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A few of us went to the lunch at the factory and whilst there I asked abput bpth versions.
Was told for normal driving an occasional towing the 2.0 would be best. However for more frequent towing, off road or frequent heavey towing 3.0 all the way. That came from one of the engineers at the factory
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