Member Since: 12 Apr 2019
Location: Ayrshire
Posts: 140
RR Sport Engine Replacement
Good evening Troops.
Hope you’re all well.
Not D4 I know but looking to pick some brains if pos anyway. I recently swapped out my failed engine on my RR Sport 2010 3.0. (Turbo went…engine seized) After getting to the point where I’m ready to fire it up I’ve come up against an electrical fault….. the Ignition doesn’t seem to want to stay on and it won’t turn over.
The battery was goosed so I’ve swapped that out anyway. I’ve moved various relays around and checked fuses, etc. The earth is connected and seems ok. 400Amp fuse been replaced.
If anyone else has come up against this I’d be interested to know what the issue was and how you went about finding it.
Thanks in advance.2005 D3 HSE
2010 RRS TDV6
16th Nov 2023 7:50 pm
Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20841
Most likely something not connected properly causing a CAN error, or something simple like the brakes not being bled properlyMy D3 Build Thread
Member Since: 12 Apr 2019
Location: Ayrshire
Posts: 140
Good evening.
Thanks for the reply.
I’ll take another look. Would the Brake not bled properly cause this? In my haste and naivety I’ve not even sorted the brakes yet. They’re still all disconnected with the pedal held down…. The brake lights are on so assumed it would this think brake was on and let me start it 🤦♂️🤷♂️
I’ve also not cleared the codes….guessed this would be on seeing as the battery been disconnected for so long…. Would / could this prevent it from turning over?
Every day a school day with these things! Haha
Thanks again.2005 D3 HSE
2010 RRS TDV6
17th Nov 2023 4:51 pm
Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20841
There needs to be brake fluid pressure before it will allow a start condition
Member Since: 12 Apr 2019
Location: Ayrshire
Posts: 140
Ah I see.
Sounds promising!
Must admit I’ve never heard of it before.
Will give it a go and keep you posted. 👍👍👍2005 D3 HSE
2010 RRS TDV6
18th Nov 2023 2:08 pm
Last Boy Scout
Member Since: 12 Apr 2019
Location: Ayrshire
Posts: 140
Now then!
Bled Brakes…fault still there…. Messed round with other stuff… Bled Brakes again…. Turned over and started first time!! Ye ha!!!!! Yas!
Switched it off….problem returned… won’t start….
Bled brakes…. No joy….
Question is….what’s the best way to Bleed the brakes properly?? 2005 D3 HSE
2010 RRS TDV6
21st Nov 2023 7:30 pm
Last Boy Scout
Member Since: 12 Apr 2019
Location: Ayrshire
Posts: 140
Update
Rear brake pipes replaced and brakes bled thoroughly.
Now starts every time!
Thanks for the info.2005 D3 HSE
2010 RRS TDV6
8th Dec 2023 3:27 am
rrhool
Member Since: 28 Aug 2014
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 4519
Richard
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8th Dec 2023 7:21 am
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14389
Its weird how theses seemingly non connected things are interconnected New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
8th Dec 2023 7:29 am
popsdosh
Member Since: 09 Nov 2009
Location: cambs
Posts: 442
Not really as it is an inbuilt safety feature that stops you using a vehicle with defective brake pressures.
8th Dec 2023 10:07 am
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14389
Never knew that. Everyday is a school day. New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
8th Dec 2023 10:57 am
Last Boy Scout
Member Since: 12 Apr 2019
Location: Ayrshire
Posts: 140
Now then peeps…. Anyone able to help me out with a pic of where these last two breathers go…? 😆🫣
Last bit of the puzzle…. Kinda 👀😆2005 D3 HSE
2010 RRS TDV6
15th Jan 2024 10:32 pm
Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10679
Guessing. Something to do with electric solonoids
16th Jan 2024 3:42 am
DaveJLBI
Member Since: 07 Mar 2014
Location: Clare
Posts: 682
Out of interest, does the RRS 3.0 take longer to turn over? I had a MY16 D4 on trial a few months ago and everything was great but it took a couple of seconds longer to turn over. When I got my local LR indie to give it the once over, they told me that the engine had been replaced (something the non-LR dealer had forgotten to tell me!). He noted that he has seen that due to software issues, the RRS would take at little longer to turn over - not sure if there is any truth in that though.
I rejected the vehicle and got my money back. Shame, everything else was good but no information available on the engine, except the hand written RRS3.0 on the engine!
17th Jan 2024 10:25 am
Last Boy Scout
Member Since: 12 Apr 2019
Location: Ayrshire
Posts: 140
Sorry…missed this.
I can’t say I’ve noticed it turning over slow so guess not but could be wrong.
I also have a D3 TDV6…different engine I know but it’s turns over much the same speed as far as I can tell.
That’s a shame you had to hand it back…might have been ok but you just never know eh.2005 D3 HSE
2010 RRS TDV6
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