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Is it me - taps and keys?

This falls under the category of a "pointless post".

When I was a lad, all taps worked like they were threaded (because they were), i.e., anti-clockwise = open, clockwise = close.

When I was a lad, all locks worked the same way: with the key in the lock, turn the top of the key away from the jamb.

Things seem to have been slowly changing to be the complete opposite of these. Who agreed to this? I certainly didn't. Shall we have a country-wide referendum?
 
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We DID have a referendum on this ... did you forget to vote ? Laughing


You might find the key direction thing changed when the majority of the public no longer knew what a door jamb was.
  
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BS CP 310 1965 stated that when hot and cold taps are provided together the hot water tap should be on the left.

BS 1010 Part2 1973 stated that for combined assemblies it is recommended that the hot tap should be on the left hand side when viewed from the front.

EN 200 1989/92 states that in the case of taps with separate control devices, the cold water shall be on the right and the hot water on the left.


I dug the above out, some years ago, when I was having some plumbing done at home, and the plumber was reluctant to change a hot tap to the right hand side of a basin.

I would be interested to have someone confirm that this is still the case. I believe that similar regulations exist in the USA.

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The handing of taps - hot on the left, cold on the right - is intended to help blind people as much as anything.
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But what about the direction of turn? Wink
 
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perhaps taps are exercising their right to rotation fluidity ?
  
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^ ^ ^ Rolling with laughter


Not that I am suggesting either way is right or wrong (should that be correct and incorrect - don't want to suggest that turning right (clockwise) is right and turning left (anti-clockwise) is wrong). Oh, hang on I am not suggesting that turning left is anti anything and certainly not suggesting there should be any clockwise prejudice.

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RRSTDV8 wrote:
The handing of taps - hot on the left, cold on the right - is intended to help blind people as much as anything.


My son's house is a new-build Bellway one. The bath HAS to have a temperature limiter installed. Ok so far ? but it's too cold to run a bath because of the water losing temperature whilst it's taking ages to fill.

And of course ... it's a fixed temperature. to change it, you need to bin the installed kit and fit something else.

so never mind saving blind people from scalding themselves, it just makes having a bath a miserable event for everyone.*




* i hasten to add that when i say everyone, i don't mean all at once. or so he tells me.
  
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Or maybe HWN's memory is playing tricks on him as to how things were "back in the day"... Whistle Rolling with laughter
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The bath water temperature limit is to prevent the scalding of babies. There were some cases of babies being placed in to extremely hot baths and severe injuries occurring, and this solution was intended to help reduce that risk.

The hot water is limited to 48degC which is pretty hot if you get in a full bath at that temperature. I guess they might have a flow rate issue too which means the bath takes too long to fill and means the water has cooled before being used.

I prefer showers so this isn't an issue for me... 8)
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Does no one have elbows anymore for testing the bath temperature Whistle
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the water losing temperature whilst it's taking ages to fill.


I have trace heating on certain pipes:-

https://www.traceheatinguk.co.uk/trace-heating-products

this could be switched by a time clock and/or a thermostat.

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RRSTDV8 wrote:

The hot water is limited to 48degC which is pretty hot if you get in a full bath at that temperature. I guess they might have a flow rate issue too which means the bath takes too long to fill and means the water has cooled before being used.


Hot water needs to be stored at 55°C or more to prevent the growth of Legionella and similar.

I have this argument at home, when they all complain the hot tap is too hot.
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Rescue01 wrote:
Does no one have elbows anymore for testing the bath temperature Whistle

Probably too busy on their phones to actually check the temperature... Rolling Eyes
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I'm sure there is an app and a sensor for checking bath-water temperature remotely. Rolling Eyes

Mixer taps are definitely going towards 'symmetrical turning'.
 
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