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cmb2020
 


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Tow bar limit

Hi all

I was told the factory tow at only takes 750kg, and I need to fit an aftermarket one to tow my 3.5 tonne trailer loaded.

Is this true?
  
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waterbuoy
 


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Don't think so - I have towed large trailer (all c. 3.5 tonnes) round Europe for the past 6 years quite happily with both removeable and fixed towbars.

Their guidance was updated a few years back that if you tow a heavy trailer regularly then you should have a fixed tow bar, but as far as I am aware both are rated to the full capacity.
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I believe fixed and removable LR tow bars are rated at vehicle capacity 3500 kg ,
  
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Plus 1 , ^^^^^^ ref the 3,500Kg


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detachable one now advises as only occassional towing...what ever that means..rated 3500
  
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Cheers guys
  
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It is sort of true.

You can tow up to 750kg with an unbraked trailer but if the trailer has brakes you can tow up to 3500kg.
The 750kg is the maximum any vehicle can tow with an unbraked trailer.
  
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In the Uk you can tow 3500kg but your tow ball weight is only 150kg so at a full 3500kg that is a bit light on and can cause the wobbles. In most other places in the world like the US and Aust we have the same 3500kg tow capacity but out vehicles and tow bars are rated to 350kg tow ball weight which is a better number to tow a full 3500kgs.

Garry
  
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I always though the noseweight limit on the detachable was 100kg so that's handy info from the pics above. My alko hitch is also 150kg but I've always loaded to about 95kg because of the tow bar (mistakenly it seems). The MTPLM range recommendation gives up up to about 115kg on the nose so I will try going a bit heavier on the next trip Thumbs Up
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Daft question if I may , , how do u measure the nose weight is it through scales etc , plse

Many thks Thumbs Up
   
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Some people use a bit of wood and some bathroom scales, I have one of these:

https://www.milenco.com/products/safety/noseweight-gauge

Don't start reading about it on the caravan forums, you'll get your mind blown by all the opinions about measuring nose weights. Especially for twin axle vans. I just make sure the van is at towing height, on a level surface, brake off and chocked wheels.
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This Ebay item no: eBay Item No. 323905426576 makes it relatively easy to get your nose weight right! (other manufacturers/devices are available) Thumbs Up
  
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Many thks and most appreciated Thumbs Up

Nows there’s a thought that never entered my mind with regards to twin axles , suppose all down to experience gauging it , including the weight of the overall towing set up, out of curiosity do u ever use the council weigh ins plse

Indeed some great ideas now available

As a kid never understood why dad when loading the caravan shouted at us if we threw things in or moved items around Laughing , if I remember rightly it was an Eccles caravan with the gas lamps , the an ace globetrotter

Was always a standing joke that the old form consul would overheat going over the hogs back Whistle

Most appreciated Bow down
   
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Dondiddy wrote:
This Ebay item no: eBay Item No. 323905426576 makes it relatively easy to get your nose weight right! (other manufacturers/devices are available) Thumbs Up


Providing that you do the necessary calculation and don’t just use the scale on the jockey wheel as equating to the actual noseweight.
  
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gstuart wrote:
Many thks and most appreciated Thumbs Up

Nows there’s a thought that never entered my mind with regards to twin axles , suppose all down to experience gauging it , including the weight of the overall towing set up, out of curiosity do u ever use the council weigh ins plse

Indeed some great ideas now available

As a kid never understood why dad when loading the caravan shouted at us if we threw things in or moved items around Laughing , if I remember rightly it was an Eccles caravan with the gas lamps , the an ace globetrotter

Was always a standing joke that the old form consul would overheat going over the hogs back Whistle

Most appreciated Bow down


It is down to experience you get to know how the trailer or caravan tows and moving things around can make things better or worse. I know that my Discovery likes a lot of nose weight but you also have to take into account all the axle weights of the vehicle and trailer.
  
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