I don't have a problem with democracy per se. The justification for the decision to take it down was that HMTQ represents the "...recent colonial history of Great Britain", with I assume they view as A Bad Thing and is the element with which I'd disagree. I'd say that the 'recent colonial history' was giving all the ex-colonies independence (A Good Thing, surely?), with HMTQ personally investing a lot of time and interest in The Commonwealth - building relationships and understanding between the ex-colonies (A Good Thing, surely?). Given that British colonialism spanned 450 years (good and bad), I suppose "recent" is moot.
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9th Jun 2021 5:18 pm
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But the people that put it up weren’t the same ones that took it down, I know some people are ‘eternal students’ but think they’ll have gone by now
9th Jun 2021 5:28 pm
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What I find of interest is the BLM movement. Extremely quiet on the Sasha Johnson issue now that the suspects are black.
Lefties on Twitter are silent on the subject. Not up in arms and no political agenda axe to grind. Apparently, or maybe in this instance a BLM is not that important as no witnesses are coming forward.
Maybe we need some virtual signaling for the left to feel justified and offended.....
9th Jun 2021 5:44 pm
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HWN wrote:
I don't have a problem with democracy per se. The justification for the decision to take it down was that HMTQ represents the "...recent colonial history of Great Britain", with I assume they view as A Bad Thing and is the element with which I'd disagree. I'd say that the 'recent colonial history' was giving all the ex-colonies independence (A Good Thing, surely?), with HMTQ personally investing a lot of time and interest in The Commonwealth - building relationships and understanding between the ex-colonies (A Good Thing, surely?). Given that British colonialism spanned 450 years (good and bad), I suppose "recent" is moot.
They are young and perhaps misguided. It’s just been blown up by the media to make a good “anti woke” story.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
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9th Jun 2021 6:14 pm
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Or it may be a true reflection of ‘snowflake’ society…..
9th Jun 2021 6:24 pm
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Well that covers pretty much everything we all b*tch about on here….
9th Jun 2021 7:01 pm
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astonbuilder wrote:
Or it may be a true reflection of ‘snowflake’ society…..
Oxford students are not, in my opinion, a true reflection of society. Although it’s fair to say that it’s not as elitist as it once was.
I don’t see the connection with being pro or anti the monarchy and being a snowflake.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
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9th Jun 2021 7:13 pm
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You must be ‘right wing’, it must be so as DG has spoken…
“I'd argue that only rightwing fantasists couldn't consider the possibility that all the evidence and research suggest otherwise Whistle”
I think ‘snowflake’ fits the narrative too;
"Snowflake" is a 2010s derogatory slang term for a person, implying that they have an inflated sense of uniqueness, an unwarranted sense of entitlement, or are overly-emotional, easily offended, and unable to deal with opposing opinions. ...
9th Jun 2021 7:16 pm
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9th Jun 2021 7:24 pm
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Who is then?
9th Jun 2021 7:25 pm
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They have their opinions and voted on it. I daresay that many of them just preferred the idea of having a different picture on the wall and that the press have ‘exaggerated’ the story.
One could argue that it’s those who take umbrage at such nonsense who are the real snowflakes.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
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9th Jun 2021 7:25 pm
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As on all these ‘topics’ we enter the arena of toulmin arguments….
9th Jun 2021 7:34 pm
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I don’t think it’s a story or an argument worthy of applying his method to. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
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