Member Since: 13 Apr 2018
Location: Weymouth
Posts: 273
Timing Belt Change Pointers
I started my 2015 HSE D4 timing belt change which is progressing nicely.
Just wanted to share a couple of points here to maybe help others facing this task.
1. The timing pins do not go into the receiving holes the same amount, the right hand one goes in less than the left hand one by about 4mm, see the images I screen grabbed from other YouTube videos.
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2. To hold the crank pulley whist loosening and tightening the pulley bolt, I made a tool out of a redundant viscous fan spanner, see the image...
Gone 2016 Landmark D4
Current 2015 HSE D4 - AKA - 'Gandalf the Grey'
12th Dec 2022 12:15 pm
OliverRR91
Member Since: 03 Oct 2022
Location: Cambridge
Posts: 11
Out of interest, which Youtube video dod you follow? Thanks
31st Dec 2022 9:20 pm
Weyboat
Member Since: 13 Apr 2018
Location: Weymouth
Posts: 273
I watched a few but this one mainly because I was also changing the oil pump.
Gone 2016 Landmark D4
Current 2015 HSE D4 - AKA - 'Gandalf the Grey'
31st Dec 2022 9:26 pm
Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10689
Be useful to see your tool close up
31st Dec 2022 10:35 pm
Weyboat
Member Since: 13 Apr 2018
Location: Weymouth
Posts: 273
Here you go.
Gone 2016 Landmark D4
Current 2015 HSE D4 - AKA - 'Gandalf the Grey'
1st Jan 2023 9:13 am
popsdosh
Member Since: 09 Nov 2009
Location: cambs
Posts: 442
The only problem with this type of tool is that its not a set datum for bolts to line up, it will do one car, but the other's will not line up the holes, I found this out when I first used my prototype tool back when the cars first came out.
This is my two part tool I made for holding the crank pulley and have used for over 15 years without problems. It has variable geometry so that it can be moved to align the bolt holes.
This tool has done well over a thousand Oil pumps. As some members can testify from when I used to go down to Geoff's place for week end Cambelt changes.
Flack
1st Jan 2023 2:58 pm
MikeBob
Member Since: 19 Sep 2016
Location: Pretoria
Posts: 115
Because you dont need to remove the starter motor with my tool to lock the flywheel.
Flack
1st Jan 2023 4:57 pm
Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20844
By not locking the flywheel, you cannot be certain that the crank timing is 100% accurate
Yes, the crank shouldn't move once locked with the pulley locked, but the starter isn't difficult to remove, and rather safe than sorry, IMO My D3 Build Thread
Member Since: 20 Jul 2015
Location: Here
Posts: 575
I always locked the flywheel - but it's a lot easier to do with a hoist, taking the starter out on jack & stands isn't a job I'd want to do so I can see why people would chance locking the crank instead.
1st Jan 2023 10:14 pm
Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20844
TBH, it's quicker to do it with a jack and axle stands
Member Since: 19 Sep 2016
Location: Pretoria
Posts: 115
I agree with Mikey, I always lock flywheel. Then you know nothing has moved
2nd Jan 2023 3:42 am
Weyboat
Member Since: 13 Apr 2018
Location: Weymouth
Posts: 273
Flatlander wrote:
I always locked the flywheel - but it's a lot easier to do with a hoist, taking the starter out on jack & stands isn't a job I'd want to do so I can see why people would chance locking the crank instead.
In my case I had the flywheel locked with the 'Peg' tool, the crankshaft pulley locked with my home made tool and both camshaft timing pins still in place.
When I had finished the camshaft timing pins were still a 'slip' fit so I knew the tools had done there job successfully.Gone 2016 Landmark D4
Current 2015 HSE D4 - AKA - 'Gandalf the Grey'
By not locking the flywheel, you cannot be certain that the crank timing is 100% accurate
I have had this quote over the years while using this tool, as I said its done over a thousand pump changes over the years, the most ever done on a week end was eight cars using this tool.
All customers reported after the change of the pump how smooth the car runs, this would not be the case if the timing was out.
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