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jdumont
 


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United Kingdom 2016 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Barolo BlackDiscovery 4
Failed MAP sensor?

I've been having fun with Restricted Performance codes for the past week. Traced it to a cracked intake manifold that I've patched for now and confirmed with a smoke test that it's no longer leaking.

However I've noticed that when looking at live values in my Gap IID I'm not getting read out for some values, such as "Manifold absolute pressure" and "Mass air flow".

I've thought before that my Gap wasn't reading values correctly when I was trying to diagnose start/stop issues, but I'm fairly certain that this time last week when the RP issues started I could at least get MAP and definitely had both MAF readings (because I remember them being wildly different!).

Is the lack of read out from MAP an indication of a failed or damaged sensor, or is this a Gap issue?

Screenshots of values at various RPM (in neutral at a standstill)







  
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PROFSR G
 


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Ukraine 2009 Discovery 3 TDV6 Commercial XS Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 3

Manifold pressure (actuations) ie boost pressure actuator, and adjustment, are represented in % for both MAP and boost. Manifold (actual) pressure will read in kPa/psi, both MAF sensors will read in g/s (grams per second) though this value is variable between the two depending on engine speed and load.

Make sure you have "pending faults" active on your IID, if there was a sensor faulty there would be a fault logged or "pending". Psi readings are a bit outdated, try changing the tool set up to kPa (Kilopascals) as it's easier to spot an anomaly.
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jdumont
 


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Pending faults is already active, and nothing being returned yet. I've also changed my units to kPa, but units aside should I be expecting values for those two rather than "N/A"?

What values in the Gap tool would you recommend to keep an eye on intake values that may have a bearing on restricted performance issues?
  
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PROFSR G
 


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Yes you should have a value for both MAF and MAPS, it may just be a GAP glitch as I've seen this behaviour before.

Monitoring for performance related faults is not really of much use in the absence of any fault codes.
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