Member Since: 06 Feb 2024
Location: gloucestershire
Posts: 10
Sensible repair pot size when purchasing D3
Hi everyone
I'm new on here but have been lurking for a few months. I'm extremely interested in purchasing a discovery 3 (originally i was set on a mk1 xc90 but they just aren't as inspiring...) - sure not the most logical decision but I can't help finding them so attractive and fun.
I am not an engineer (well i am a software engineer by trade... but not transferable here haha!) so I accept the fact that I will be mainly relying on garages to maintain but I also want to use it as an opportunity to learn basic maintenance. I also accept the fact that these vehicles require pro-active maintenance and it will cost more to run than my current skoda karoq!!!
My plan was to purchase a TDV6 ~2007 for around £4-6k with good service history and receipts showing possibly some of the more expensive works having been recently done whilst keeping an initial repair pot of £6k handy.
I would love to get to know your thoughts on the pot size? I know this isn't an exact science.
Thanks!
7th Feb 2024 12:56 pm
grzesiul
Member Since: 11 May 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 6402
IMO for this age vehicle especially D3 which is heavy complex ... I would look for the following:
1. rust on sills pretty costly job
2. brake lines (all length of it) or evidence of them being done
3 obviously all corners for suspension and braking system
4. diffs transfer case gearbox oil changes documented if done
5. get the sense of how park brake is operating as it is costly
6 EAS state or refurb documentation if ever done like front rear block seal compressor rebuild replacement
7. defo check for any leaks on this car as in most cases they are expensive to rectify
8 check evidence of timing belts changes
9. check if oil pump been replaced with newer one
10. state of mid bearing on main prop shaft
all those point can be part of you amount to put aside after purchase and in extreme cases might be more than purchase price itself
but that is my opinion only
7th Feb 2024 2:35 pm
rssfrncs
Member Since: 06 Feb 2024
Location: gloucestershire
Posts: 10
Thanks for that list.
Yeah it's an interesting point having a "repair" pot the same size or bigger than the initial purchase cost but I suppose I'm not interested in any other newer / more expensive car which serves the same purpose.
I prefer the more basic look of the 3 over the 4 and the 4 would not as i understand it be anymore reliable in regards to the engine (diesel)? I guess it would have a bit more time on it's side but would a few years make a big difference?
7th Feb 2024 3:44 pm
Bracechenko
Member Since: 29 Jun 2021
Location: Cardiff
Posts: 183
Re: Sensible repair pot size when purchasing D3
rssfrncs wrote:
Hi everyone
I'm new on here but have been lurking for a few months. I'm extremely interested in purchasing a discovery 3 (originally i was set on a mk1 xc90 but they just aren't as inspiring...) - sure not the most logical decision but I can't help finding them so attractive and fun.
I am not an engineer (well i am a software engineer by trade... but not transferable here haha!) so I accept the fact that I will be mainly relying on garages to maintain but I also want to use it as an opportunity to learn basic maintenance. I also accept the fact that these vehicles require pro-active maintenance and it will cost more to run than my current skoda karoq!!!
My plan was to purchase a TDV6 ~2007 for around £4-6k with good service history and receipts showing possibly some of the more expensive works having been recently done whilst keeping an initial repair pot of £6k handy.
I would love to get to know your thoughts on the pot size? I know this isn't an exact science.
Thanks!
Hi there and welcome!
I was in a similar position to you about 3 years ago when I bought mine but took a gamble on a 2007 D3 with no service history! However, it was very clean, no rust other than usual surface rust underneath, everything worked, new tyres/brakes/calipers and was on 142k at the time.
I budgeted for about £1000 a year + usual maintenance and I would say that it's pretty much been about that. I preventatively spent money on new timing belts, service and ATF change along with diff oil changes.
On top of that, I found out that the brake servo was full of oil. Quite scary moment when the assistance on the brake pedal went as I tried to slow down my car with a 1.8t caravan on the back! That cost me about £1k to resolve (there was an early recall for this which was done about 10 years prior but it failed again).
I also then had the compressor start to throw up codes and whilst a handy spanner might be able to have serviced the Hitachi unit...I ended up replacing which I think was about £700 all in. Other than that, lower arms and a small coolant leak which wasn't too costly.
Don't be too put off though. I knew what I was buying and the car was a good price. I bought it at that stage where most of the expensive stuff was coming to it's end of life so I've taken the hit. I'm hopefully passed that stage now so expecting annual bills to start coming down slightly. They are big cars though and demand expensive maintenance but I absolutely love my D3 and wouldn't change it for the world. The capability, the look, the practicality and just a vehicle that can do everything in style.
I've always had the mentality that I'd rather pay to keep an older car on the road than lease a new car for 3 years and start again. People sometimes raise their eyes at my annual bills and then I point out that they're paying £400 a month for a car they don't own!?!
Sensible to get one with good service history and don't be scared to buy one with 140k + so long as all the big stuff is done as you stated. In particular, find out if the oil pump has been replaced for the uprated one...plenty of info on this site if you need to find out more.
Good luck
7th Feb 2024 4:24 pm
zig
Member Since: 09 Sep 2005
Location: Scotland
Posts: 648
Is there a Land Rover specialist close to you where you can get the vehicle serviced and repaired? You don’t want to use a LR main dealer as that would cost a fortune.
7th Feb 2024 7:41 pm
M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: Notts.
Posts: 8226
I would use that repair pot to buy a D4, far more reliable, better performance, most of the D3 failings have been rectified including the gearbox and torque converter which will empty your repair pot sooner rather than later. It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
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8th Feb 2024 9:54 am
rssfrncs
Member Since: 06 Feb 2024
Location: gloucestershire
Posts: 10
Interesting about the D4 i was led to believe from reading posts here and elsewhere and watching yt videos that the D4 might suffer a lot of the same issues but is of course more expensive outright due to the age
Regarding local independents near me there are a lot (Dursley, Gloucestershire) with MJ Fews being the closest.
8th Feb 2024 12:44 pm
grzesiul
Member Since: 11 May 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 6402
I would also opt for early 8 speed D4
mine is 9 years old coming and had its issues but nothing dramatic
good luck hunting
8th Feb 2024 1:49 pm
RogB
Member Since: 15 Jun 2018
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 1729
with that sort of pot of cash you would be better going for an 2012MY D4 as its a much better drive, better equipped, better gearbox etc etc etc. You should be able to find a well maintained late 61 plate or 62 for that sort of money and still have a bit left over for mods.... sorry maintenance
all just my own opinion of course, Ive only ever test driven D3 but never owned one, the D4 i settled on (and still regret selling) was a much better choice for me.2011 D4 XS 305 MY12 - gone but not forgotten
8th Feb 2024 2:04 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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NJSS wrote:
I entirely agree with M3DPO
+1
8th Feb 2024 2:10 pm
Asa
Member Since: 03 Jul 2016
Location: Essex
Posts: 178
I started setting aside around £800 per year for my D3 once it got to 160K?
If the spend is less in a year fine and it often is. Why do this?
I cannot find a suitable replacement nor justify the cost of doing so.
The car has been superb with engineering integrity possibly never to be seen again, the D4 is definitely a good option as is I think the Range Rover L405? Just watch LR time on YouTube?
You have the right attitude for Land Rover ownership. I had a Mitsubishi Shogun and and Audi quattros before Land Rovers and was always looking at the D3 when it was launched thinking why didn't I buy the proper one! 205k now.Buy wise buy once. No regrets.
8th Feb 2024 2:11 pm
rssfrncs
Member Since: 06 Feb 2024
Location: gloucestershire
Posts: 10
Hi everyone. Thanks for all your comments so far.
I've been researching d3 / d4 reliability after the comments suggesting a d4 would be better. Aside from the common sense that a new iteration would of course improve on the faults of the previous model I can't find much in the way of increased reliability and some prominent sources (LR Time for example) suggesting the d3 is the more reliable bet especially around the engine. Does anyone have any good posts / videos for me to look into further? Maybe it's all anecdotal which is fine ha.
For some reason it does feel better for me to go with a cheaper initial d3 and assume i'm going to have to repair / replace things myself. I'd love to see an up to date average UK cost for common faults / fixes but there doesn't seem to be a compilation anywhere I can see.
11th Feb 2024 8:38 am
Gary_P
Member Since: 03 May 2016
Location: Kent
Posts: 1664
Can’t remember which year the water pump design changed. That would be one reliability item to factor 8th a later model.Gary
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11th Feb 2024 10:48 am
biasbilt
Member Since: 12 Sep 2014
Location: Devon
Posts: 7
Just done the same myself, sold a 2006 D3 with 140k mile and bought a 2011 D4 8 speed with 104k - all round a much better car as just more refined and improved
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