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Do road tyres work off road (a little)
Hi
Im still wavering about which SUV to buy
However I annot escape how good off road the D3 is compared to the others
I dont plan to go across Africa, but maybe the odd spontaneous trip down a wussy green lane
(Houndkirk Moor near Sheffield springs to mind)
Will a set of road biased tyres, Im not sure which are currently the faves here, give sufficient grip to go up a loose rocky/stoney hill and also give grip in sand and/or modest amounts of mud?
Please note Im not talking serious hard man off roading, but am however thinking of the odd trip over the moors
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12th Sep 2008 6:30 pm
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Road tyres are extremely capable off-road ... I spent about 8 months on them in off-roading situations and there weren't too many places others got that I didn't ...but they have their weaknesses and after popping 2 sidewalls in 50yards on a flinty rutted lane I soon changed over to something a bit tougher 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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12th Sep 2008 6:32 pm
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Used std road tyres for the first 3 off road forays and copes easily with green lanes & probably a lot more than you give wcredit for. However, off road tyres are more robust and punture resistant when on roks etc.
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12th Sep 2008 6:32 pm
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Grip will not be a problem ...iv been on many an off road day ,and road tyres will go anywere the off road tryes go.
However ...side walls on normall tyres are normally softer....and any rocky flinty surface could end up sliting the side wall.G4 Gone ...but not forgotten
12th Sep 2008 6:33 pm
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Road tyres are very good... used them for 4 years now.
Only real issue is lateral grip really. With good throttle control and the right approach to obstacles you'll find that they will get you most places. In fact sometimes places an aggressive tyre won't.
They are however as has been said, more delicate than a dedicated off road tyre.
The D3 is a very clever vehicle in all its guises. Driver control will ultimately determine how far you can or want to go.
Will a set of road biased tyres, Im not sure which are currently the faves here, give sufficient grip to go up a loose rocky/stoney hill and also give grip in sand and/or modest amounts of mud?
Go & have a look at what a standard Landrover can do at a Landrover experience centre....they do all their off road work with customers using standard as supplied by Landrover tyres.....you will be impressed.
Some where in a old Landrover brochure (series One Disco) there was a diagram that was like a cross shaped graph it showed that the standard tyres (in my case Mud & Snow tyres) they fitted were "30% off road"......whatever that meant.
The systems fitted to Disco 3's makes the best of the tyres you will have on & using the set up intelligently (maybe a bit of training at a LR Experience centre + some practice & you will cope with most things.BREXIT - done properly.
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13th Sep 2008 6:06 am
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What they all said
Some where in a old Landrover brochure (series One Disco) there was a diagram that was like a cross shaped graph it showed that the standard tyres (in my case Mud & Snow tyres) they fitted were "30% off road"......whatever that meant.
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Only time I ever got stuck on a Disco3 off road event was on STT's all the other events have gone without issue on road tyres "To finish first, one first has to finish ...."
for the graph AndrewS - realise now I have that written data from the level 1 course I also did....
What I have found with the road tyres I have is that they seem OK - all except for very icey roads - frozen slush etc
They aren't anywhere near as good now compared to new (Pirelli Scorpions) coming to 20k miles & about 4 mm tread left on front....they can plane quite badly on rain soaked roadsBREXIT - done properly.
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13th Sep 2008 11:42 am
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Just did Level 2 at LRE Dunkeld on road tyres, coped no probe at all.
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