Deondef
Member Since: 08 May 2007
Location: Randburg
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Back from vacation in Cape. Problem with cutting out and going into limp mode on my D3 TDV6 S is back ! 
While scanning to posts saw that it seems to be same problem experienced by Sandlover and AP Moller as well. Same symptoms and message
Vehicle is due for a service (46odd k) and had Sandton LR do diagnostics yesterday. Spit out 6 pages ! listing all the occasions when it happened - almost 10 times.
Most common occurance is when vehicle has been traveling for quite a while under normal conditions- ie 120km/h at just over 2000rpm and extra power is required when overtaking - as soon as revs hit 4000rpm it goes into limp mode. Although on return leg when we left overnight accommodation outside Colesberg temp was -4deg and engine would go into limp mode at 2000rpm. Had to travel at very low speed for almost 1 hour before I could get revs up.
Service manager suggests diesel filter again  and/or faulty pump  .
What is worrying is that diagnostics also show too high temp of rear diff and some other suspension faults 
Will go in for service and whatever needs to be fixed on 22nd .
And I keep hearing these voices in my head - Quote: unreliable, will not last 100 000 km without problems, too many electronics, can't fix in bush, mechanics not fully trained , .................
Still well chilled after great 2 weeks to get to worked up at present  Erstwhile - D3 S '07. Dual battery system. Upgraded tow hitch. Mantec skid plate. Frontrunner rr. Tmax double headed built in compressor
Defender TD5 110 CSW '00. "With everything"
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heine
Member Since: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
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For the sake of my mental health , I'm going to ignore this post
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| 15th Jul 2008 9:42 am |
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Sandlover
Member Since: 13 Dec 2007
Location: Windhoek
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Hi Deondef
That's exactly what happened when I had to replace the fuel pump (and not covered by warranty). It is very concerning all the problems that relate to diesel that are coming out. Remember, I have had:
fuel pump replaced, fuel filter at my own request (every 12 000 kms), fuel injector, fuel tank and another pump inside the fuel tank.
I thought I had an exit strategy to revert to a Defender but it appears as if they have similar issues with diesel. Are the Poms not aware that we drive Landies in Africa?
The LC 70 is looking very attractive...
By the way. I'm still waiting after 4 weeks for my vehicle. Not a happy chappy.
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| 15th Jul 2008 10:32 am |
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Deondef
Member Since: 08 May 2007
Location: Randburg
Posts: 790
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[Quote:had to replace the fuel pump (and not covered by warranty).
Is this under extended warranty or original one ? If it is under original then I will throw toys that you can't believe.
BTW I am now (again) eyeing the Patrol - pitty about its fuel consumption Erstwhile - D3 S '07. Dual battery system. Upgraded tow hitch. Mantec skid plate. Frontrunner rr. Tmax double headed built in compressor
Defender TD5 110 CSW '00. "With everything"
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| 16th Jul 2008 6:27 am |
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heine
Member Since: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
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Quote:BTW I am now (again) eyeing the Patrol - pitty about its fuel consumption
Wash your mouth out - surely you meant prado 
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| 16th Jul 2008 7:12 am |
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Deondef
Member Since: 08 May 2007
Location: Randburg
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Heine - it will be a sad day (but probably a reliable one) when you see me driving a T_y_t_ Erstwhile - D3 S '07. Dual battery system. Upgraded tow hitch. Mantec skid plate. Frontrunner rr. Tmax double headed built in compressor
Defender TD5 110 CSW '00. "With everything"
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| 16th Jul 2008 7:17 am |
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heine
Member Since: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
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Not sure I'll acknowledge you in public - but let's see how I feel after my Zambian trip 
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| 16th Jul 2008 7:18 am |
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Baben
Member Since: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Kyalami
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Strange that the fuel pump isnt covered by warranty? I don't believe that you should accept this, TBH. When I had the same problem, LR Midrand sorted it out with no questions or hassles. Whether you are you in original warranty or not should not be an issue.
I also don't fully believe that they can blame diesel quality - the filters are there for a reason and they probly do their job, so how are they gonna prove to you that the diesel was the culprit, and what are you as a consumer supposed to do about it? Naturally you are never (not ever  ) gonna fill up from unmarked drums in the middle of Kaokoland, but surely you can't test the diesel at every retail outlet?
Either the vehicle is Africa proof or not - kinda like the Tyredog isn't 
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| 16th Jul 2008 7:24 am |
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heine
Member Since: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
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Baben wrote:Either the vehicle is Africa proof or not - kinda like the Tyredog isn't
What was the outcome with Tyredog
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| 16th Jul 2008 7:27 am |
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Deondef
Member Since: 08 May 2007
Location: Randburg
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Thanks Heine
Depending on the outcome this afternoon at LR Sandton - I may just follow up Erstwhile - D3 S '07. Dual battery system. Upgraded tow hitch. Mantec skid plate. Frontrunner rr. Tmax double headed built in compressor
Defender TD5 110 CSW '00. "With everything"
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| 22nd Jul 2008 10:13 am |
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heine
Member Since: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
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I was only joking  but good luck and let us know what they have to say
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| 22nd Jul 2008 10:16 am |
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Jonty
Member Since: 13 Oct 2007
Location: On the beach
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Recently I've been spending most of my time in Tanzania and Kenya where the diesel isn't even low sulpfur, but never had this problem you guys report. Saying that, I do replace all filters every 6000kms.
I also don't beleive all the BMW and Mercedes diesel saloons can have more resilient systems than a LR?
The dealer in Kenya said he only recommends petrol models for the local market but that's irrelevant here.
This is surely a warranty case, if your dealer doesn't play ball, contact LRSA and give them a piece of your mind.
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| 22nd Jul 2008 6:19 pm |
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Baben
Member Since: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Kyalami
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Deon, now that you have driven a real D3 (ie. mine) surely you can admit that you have an isolated problem "Friday car"? 
By the way, your shocks are completely and utterly fu  ed - they need to be changed before you hurt somebody. Don't your kids get ill in the back of that wagon?
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| 22nd Jul 2008 7:46 pm |
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Deondef
Member Since: 08 May 2007
Location: Randburg
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Baben - doesn't seem that my problem is so isolated anymore - 3 others on this forum has a similar problem and when I booked in the D3 yesterday another was there for the same reason - BTW anyone know a "mr Moolman" who drives a silver D3 with BGF tyres fitted ?
Anyway - vehicle is still there as I have added quite a number of other issues/problems - the latest being a jerk felt when slowiing down and just before stopping - autobox going into 1st gear 
Must say after driving your vehicle mine did feel like a vomit comet - LR reckons they can not just replace without doing full diagnostics on them - IOW the computer must say they are f ed and not Deon or Anthony Erstwhile - D3 S '07. Dual battery system. Upgraded tow hitch. Mantec skid plate. Frontrunner rr. Tmax double headed built in compressor
Defender TD5 110 CSW '00. "With everything"
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