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NoDo$h
 


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M&S isn't a winter tyre UNLESS it has a snowflake next to the M&S marking.

EDIT Embarassed Sorry, that's a US thing and some EU manufacturers have dabbled with it. See further post below.
 I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no. 

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NoDoSh wrote:
When are you off to LesC NJF? We'll be driving down on Feb 13th ...


Not until Easter, which is very late this year (April). We'll probably have no/crap snow. In fact, they'll probably be putting the cows out to high pasture by the time we get there. Rolling Eyes

Never mind, I love mountains whatever the weather. 8)

A colleague was down there last week and he had a great time; perfect snow. Have fun, ND. Thumbs Up
  
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NoDo$h wrote:
M&S isn't a winter tyre UNLESS it has a snowflake next to the M&S marking.


Ok, got that partly right. Seems different countries and different tyre manufacturers have varying views on this. For Austria:

[quote http://newsweaver.co.uk/clm/e_article000711342.cfm?x=b11,0,w ]Austria:

The use of winter tyres is not mandatory throughout Austria although their use can be enforced through road signs. In snowy areas drivers have two options; either use winter tyres or fit snow chains to summer tyres. A winter tyre is defined as a tyre with 4mm of tread throughout the entire treaded area with M+S marked on the sidewall. Any tyre with less than 4mm is classified as a summer tyre regardless of the M+S marking on the sidewall. Although road signs can enforce the use of chains, they can also be used when the motorist deems them necessary but must be removed if a road sign to that effect is displayed. In addition, in some Alpine regions, snow chains can be compulsory. Speed restrictions are in place for vehicles up to 3.5 tonnes fitted with spikes.[/quote]

Note this was written in 2006. Since then it has become compulsory to use winter tyres and your AT2s will do nicely, provided there is more than 4mm tread.
 I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no. 

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NJF, we're hoping to get over their again for a long weekend in March or April. Been going there 2 or 3 times a season for the last 8 years and went walking there on our honeymoon 6 years ago Mr. Green
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hey nodosh, good info, not trying to be fussy, but i know the law came into affect winter 2007. was living there at the time and the police had a field day afterwards with foreign cars, same as with the yellow coat etc etc. est plan with that is to hang one off the back seat, as soon as i did that i didn't get pulled at all,

seems that as there is such a low crime rate in austria the police have nothing better to do than to pull cars for random bits and try and hunt for drink drivers...

am trying to find the new paperwork on it, not much joy at the moment....
  
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NoDo$h wrote:
NJF, we're hoping to get over their again for a long weekend in March or April


We'll be at the Mont Joly Hotel, arriving Friday 3 April, leaving Saturday 11th. If you're about, let's meet for beer, ND.
  
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