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Another 4x4 Poll - and that New Tax Rate

This one on BBC News Online:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4829628.stm

That's if you can get on the site - everyone and his dog are on there at the moment looking at the Budget proposals...
 

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I scored 2 out of 3 - got the last one wrong (the Scenic question)

I'm not sure I'm happy at seeing Conservative politicians asking for a £5000 punitive tax on 4x4's
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Hooray 3/3 for me (smug git, OK...)

Land Rover have obviously been fighting their/our corner. The always-excellent Martin Shankleman on Jeremy Vine's Radio 2 budget programme had a list of emissions which had been provided to him by LR and they have just had a discussion which mentioned the D3 as probably sneaking in at 249g. Then Vine veered off on the Chelsea-tractor 'unfriendly to cyclists' argument. Ho hum...
  
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Ah... Unfortunately it's above 225g acording to the HM Treasury web site.

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I note that the BBC have recently started refering to the term 'gas guzzlers' to include all larger cars as well as 4x4's - this is a marked improvement on the historical singling out for 4x4's as the culprits.

Isn't it strange though how there's just no pleasing the green tree huggers like Greenpeace - and how inaccurate they can be about the size of engines !!

"But diesel engines tend to be bigger than their petrol counterparts, says Mr Strutt, and besides, they emit more polluting particulates and hydrocarbons. Particulate traps help, but "ultra-fine particles still slip through", says Mr Strutt."

He should have the rough end of a pineapple shoved up his A*se !!
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225g is going to include a whole lot of non-4x4 'ordinary' saloons. Interesting - it takes the focus off the "evil 4x4" a little.

The SMMT has a useful document about their position on 4x4s (apologies if it has been mentioned on the site before):

http://lib.smmt.co.uk/articles/news/News/ACF4A0B.pdf
  
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Guy wrote:
Ah... Unfortunately it's above 225g acording to the HM Treasury web site.

Crying or Very sad


Rats. I was feeling smug that my manual D3 edged under the proposed 250 g/km limit. Crying or Very sad
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i've had several uninformed to$$ers at work saying "Oooooh they've put another £210 car tax on 4x4's - what ya gonna do now? <insert smug grin>" Banging Head Banging Head
they looked distinctly un-chuffed when I explained it's all cars with emissions over 225g /km CO2 emissions and it's £210 total, not another £210 - especially as they ALL fit into the same band now Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter tw@ts Razz
  
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Looks like Audi drivers will be caught http://www.vcacarfueldata.org.uk/search/vedSearchResults.asp according to this anyway
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Martin, can you get this made up as window stickers? Laughing Laughing Laughing
  
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so if I understand correctly it's going to cost us £195 but if you're awaiting your D3 and it's not going to be delivered/registered until tomorrow it's going to cost you another £20 per year?

table A8a p203

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/bsp/hi...t_2320.pdf Sad
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Interestingly, the report states...

a new higher band of graduated VED (band G), set at £210 for petrol cars, will be introduced for the most polluting new cars (those above 225g of carbon dioxide emissions per kilometre);

...Petrol cars. So does that mean that this new band excludes diesel cars?
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you are correct - thats an extra pint or two this weekend then Very Happy
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excellent, enough for a couple of nice bottles of Rioja!

still £25 more than now though Sad Sad
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