Oh, and I am going to Hogmoor tomorrow, didn't realise it was a marketing event that I was paying for. Lloyd "Phat Face"
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17th Apr 2010 11:02 pm
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CG wrote:
Winger wrote:
ad15 wrote:
but neil is very active on BOTH sites... even as we speak....
With respect, that's because he owns one of them...........
That's a bit of contradiction. you surely can't have a club, which should be run by a elected committee on behalf of members and have it owned by someone.
CG thts what I pointed out earlier.
Thanks for the post TFC.
I have been a member of this forum for some time and am dismayed at some of the comments on this thread.
Some personal comments have been made with no right of reply.
There are many assumptions being made about motive here. Martin started this thread and did not seem to have a problem with the Disco3 club.
If these attitudes continue it will be to the detrement of this site.
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18th Apr 2010 2:20 am
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For clarity, my point was about the two forums. The relationship between the new club and the new forum is not clear; I am sure everything will become obvious when they officially launch.
18th Apr 2010 7:23 am
pom
Member Since: 10 Feb 2008
Location: Worcestershire
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Firstly I have no real issues either way about another forum being started, it isn't the first and it wont be the last either.
Have to agree with some of what 10four£ said though. Martin's method of extracting cash is having a detrimental effect on the forum in my opinion. Pulling threads left and right, the whole sponsor/advertiser saga played out on the forum coronation street style, ebay links to bargains pulled etc etc
How about posting the actual cost of site hosting (which is not going to more than two grand a year tops) and a target for the year to be raised in the header frame etc? If you are trying to make a living out of it, which is fair enough of course, then come clean and say that. If that is the case a rethink of your cash extraction method is needed that doesn't result in this weird modding system.
Heavy handed modding, although recently changed for the better to stop the crazy ninja editing, wont help at all.
Yes this forum has a lot of great posters and info giving their time and effort for free, nothing to stop them using other less onerous sites also.
It is also sad to see the usual protagonists trying to stir things up and make mileage out of it also.
For what its worth I think its a great resource just hope it can continue to be that.
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18th Apr 2010 9:00 am
simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
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So everyone agrees that using this forum to generate interest (and not inform people) in an event where all profits go to another is OK then ? Typical.
18th Apr 2010 9:14 am
Ken
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Simon not saying its right or wrong but in the early days the DoC forum was used to promote Disco3 that said it was only caus the DoC guys were freighted of technology
18th Apr 2010 9:30 am
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I know I am breaking my word and said I would'nt comment any further, but WTF!!!!!, The Hogmoor event was being argued about at the time of the banishment, and who was running it, we all posted to Martin asking for Neil's return, only now to find the event was being run HIS way, and HIS forum. I think it stinks that I battled his corner on here, and protested his banishment, and yet he has played us all.
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With Reference to Simons Quote, the second entry says 33 registered attendees, the same as advertised on the forum at the same time, disgusting if you ask me. If you want to pay a membership to these guys that act this way is upto you, but with my money I would'nt trust them with the amount of rules already broken.
IMHO, them off, I feel used, and the decency would have been to let people know. They could'nt get their own way, so broke away cherry picking those that think the grass is greener.
This is'nt a sour taste on I was'nt chosen, nor a "theres no room for two, its fundamentally a kick in the teeth for those that battled for them.
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18th Apr 2010 9:31 am
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mac... you'll get over it.
TFC. well said... and personally you have hit the nail on the head.....
funny don't see anyone disagreeing with TFC ..... one wife.......livid
18th Apr 2010 9:37 am
MacLeod 313
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I know TFC's views, he was servicing mine last week. I agree with TFC too, we do need to re-address some clarification on certain things, but I aint a sponser/advertiser, or earn out of the forum, so dont need to comment do I.
TFC is a wealth of information, a top guy. BUT unless something on HERE is done soon, we will loose him, his input, and his postings. But that is something Martin must talk to him about.
18th Apr 2010 9:44 am
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There was a similar situation not so long back in the falconry forum/s community, where a new forum started up and it's policy is now,..........
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18th Apr 2010 1:28 pm
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Nor my work completed
18th Apr 2010 1:32 pm
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10forcash wrote:
MacLeod 313 wrote:
, we will loose him, his input, and his postings.
No reason why that should happen
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18th Apr 2010 1:55 pm
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Just so you all can here/read it from the horses mouth so to speak, not that i have to explane my self to anyone on the forum for my actions but i feel it would be courteous of me to do so hence the post.
I will be sponsering and advertiseing on both forums just as i allready do on many many more forums accross the interweb which are not owned by the same owner, some of which are landrover related some not, afterall im a business and i have a business to promote and advertise, if at the same time i can find some good friends allong the way i will do, just as i have on this forum of which im proud to be a member and sponsor of.
I personally dont see any halm with what i do and have already done for years and to add to another forum to my yearly forum Invoice list will not make any difference to anyone i sponsor now, nor will it change my views of any of the forum.
I will do as i always have on all of the forums which is input where and when i can to help its members for free just as i think ive already proved on here to a good extent. and also at the same time maintain a 100% customer service report for all concerned for my business transactions done here.
Just so you all know i want to be kept out of any of the rights and wrongs of any new forums that arrise on the web im not interested in the bickering, i sponsor forums to promote my business and give free friendly advise where i can which is what led me here in the first place.
I pay my money to the forums that are also in business in there own right to financially gain from its sponsors and advertisers fees and do my job, make some friends, help a few people out allong the way so please dont get me involved in the rights and wrongs, whys and wherefores of a new site im not interested
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CG thts what I pointed out earlier.
Typical.
stinks that I battled his corner on here, and protested his banishment, and yet he has played us all.
