Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
Maybe its the way the 'Club' has been setup and the underhand way that its used this forum is what rankles some on here. Then to come on this forum and ask that we all get on... hypocritical is a word that springs to mind.
17th Apr 2010 9:55 pm
ad15
Member Since: 14 Dec 2008
Location: up that tree
Posts: 4866
you are of course assuming that the PM system has been used....
my contact was nothing to do with the PM system here,
believe it or not but when members from here meet, sometimes we get on well, swap phone numbers/ emails etc etc....
as is typically british the worst is assumed.... one wife.......livid
17th Apr 2010 9:58 pm
Winger Site Moderator
Member Since: 15 Feb 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 3428
I think it has been widely pointed out in this thread that there are numerous "club" opportunities, other forums and the like that anyone is able to join, whether there is a membership fee or not.
I cannot see any problem with the two alternatives existing side-by-side, and am sure that there will be a number of people who are active members of both. Whether that works in practice will depend, largely, upon those who choose the dual track.
However, the motives for which the new club has been set up could be, rightly, open to a degree of scrutiny, and the nature of the "launch event" in particular.
17th Apr 2010 10:00 pm
ad15
Member Since: 14 Dec 2008
Location: up that tree
Posts: 4866
ok, but can i ask who organised the so called "launch event" at hogmoor? i THINK it's neil..
i do remember an event not to long ago that was actually organised by neil and he was then banned (i dont want to drag that up) but neil is very active on BOTH sites... even as we speak....one wife.......livid
17th Apr 2010 10:03 pm
simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
ad15 wrote:
you are of course assuming that the PM system has been used....
my contact was nothing to do with the PM system here...
Never said it was. I'm sure there are other 'here's' that could have been used
17th Apr 2010 10:06 pm
Winger Site Moderator
Member Since: 15 Feb 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 3428
ad15 wrote:
but neil is very active on BOTH sites... even as we speak....
With respect, that's because he owns one of them...........
17th Apr 2010 10:08 pm
simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
ad15 wrote:
ok, but can i ask who organised the so called "launch event" at hogmoor?
Why 'so called' ??
17th Apr 2010 10:08 pm
grzesiul
Member Since: 11 May 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 6405
so much tension people
I advise FUKITOL works the charm for me since started taking it ...
17th Apr 2010 10:09 pm
ad15
Member Since: 14 Dec 2008
Location: up that tree
Posts: 4866
Winger wrote:
ad15 wrote:
but neil is very active on BOTH sites... even as we speak....
With respect, that's because he owns one of them...........
i was pointing more to his posting on here,,,, he COULD be bitter and not bother returning but he's just as active as always...
he could just post on "his" site and not return here but he doesn't,one wife.......livid
17th Apr 2010 10:12 pm
Winger Site Moderator
Member Since: 15 Feb 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 3428
So, as I said above, how it all works out will depend upon those with feet in both camps.
17th Apr 2010 10:14 pm
simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
I thought the 'Club' was restricted to registered users only ? How would anyone be able to read his posts then ?
Must be quiet in there considering he joined on Feb 7th 2010... and on God's day too
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17th Apr 2010 10:14 pm
philhunt
Member Since: 16 Sep 2007
Location: MI5 not 9 to 5
Posts: 1761
By registering I would have thought.Clubs Mantec, Tasmods, LEDS, AT2s on 18s, Maxxis Bighorns on 17s, Remote FBH, BAS. ReMap, BSS., RLD Personalised SWP., Safari Snorkel, Faultmate, Three Musketeers & MUD
17th Apr 2010 10:29 pm
10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
Posts: 16534
This isn't going to sit well with some, particularly some of the long-standing posters...
If Disco3 wasn't so overly-managed and controlled, perhaps the 'need' for the club wouldn't have arisen?
in addition, a 'club' in terms of it's legal entity has certain benefits, commitments and rights including provision of insurance for members attending events, utilisation of subscriptions solely for the benefit of it's members, publication of club accounts and (for 'motor clubs') affiliation with the MSA...
How do you know where your donation (or 'site tax' dependent upon your opinion) is going on here? is it to fund server space or bandwidth? or is it to finance the Ltd. company that manages the sites next Jaccusi?
To be clear, i've no problem with anyone making money from this site (as I do, and presumably the other sponsors & Martin do) but the days of it being funded on a shoestring are long gone and it, along with other group sites, are clearly commercial entities. IMO it's time for a change, Martine needs to sort out his business plan, work out which bits of the site are 'subscription only' - in common with other sites - or have 'sponsored by' sections, the current (IMO) cluster of sponsorship rules and regulations stifles free speech and prevents genuine discussion on the merits or otherwise of ANY product, whether supplied by a current site sponsor or not...
BTW, sponsor should be changed to 'advertiser' to reflect the commercial nature of the posts
Other sites have a clear commercial policy where 'competing' advertisers have defined boundaries, TBH, on here, it's a mess - the posting rules have changed more times than i've had gin for tea (and thats nearly a lot) all of it seems to be based upon income rather than balanced opinion and equal rights across advertisers, worringly, it also seems 'wrong' that individuals cannot recommend a product or service from someone unconnected with them without the baying hounds of 'moderation' demanding the supplier paying a site tax before their product or service can be mentioned..... think i'm wrong? look at the number of threads / posts that start with 'apologies to mods if this is a commercial post' or 'hope it's OK to post this'
without up to date info & input relating to not only products, services and information from 3rd parties, this site and others will become dinosaurs (just like the unions did in the 80's) and become consigned to history by the users and eventually the google bots as life moves on....
Me? I'll carry on doing what I do as long as I can Don't worry, the Bombay Sapphire will kick in soon
17th Apr 2010 10:31 pm
simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
But Phil, why have a forum that guests can't read whats going on too ?
but neil is very active on BOTH sites... even as we speak....
With respect, that's because he owns one of them...........
That's a bit of contradiction. you surely can't have a club, which should be run by a elected committee on behalf of members and have it owned by someone.
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By registering I would have thought.
of sponsorship rules and regulations stifles free speech and prevents genuine discussion on the merits or otherwise of ANY product, whether supplied by a current site sponsor or not...
Don't worry, the Bombay Sapphire will kick in soon 
