JeffD4
Member Since: 25 Dec 2009
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Does anyone know if you can fit rated recovery points to a D4 and if so where? On my Discovery 300TDi I use a special tongue on the rear 4000kg rated tow bar for recovery, and had two points fitted by ARB on the chassis at the front. The same tongue fits the rear tow bar on the D4 but wondered where to get the rated recovery points fitted at the front. Any advice or suggestions greatly appreciated. Recovery points are a basic necessity off road.  Land Rover Series IIA 1967
Discovery 300 Tdi 1998 (white, ARB bullbar, suspension lift, roof rack, Lightforce spots etc)
Discovery 4 3.0 Litre White, e-diff
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 7th May 2010 6:59 am |
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J@mes
Member Since: 10 Nov 2008
Location: Bomber County
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doesn't the D4 have recovery points in the same place as the D3 then? Under the panel at front and in the towing electrics panel at the back? 2014 D4 XS
2005 D3 SE - Gone
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| 7th May 2010 7:01 am |
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Dorko
Member Since: 07 Apr 2010
Location: Perth
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Yeh same spot.... not sure what its rated to though.
Dorko Dorko
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| 7th May 2010 7:06 am |
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DG
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Jeff this is an old debate that is as relevant to the D4 as it was to the D3 albeit the D3 is slightly heavier than the D4....it is yet to be demonstrated that there is any greater requirement for additional recovery points beyond those already attached to the vehicle.  21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 7th May 2010 7:07 am |
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heine
Member Since: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
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I've done some pretty hard core recoveries with my D3 on both front and back points and there was never an issue
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| 7th May 2010 9:28 am |
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Sniegy
Member Since: 01 May 2006
Location: Melbourne
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From memory the 2 recovery points are rated at 2.5 times the weight of the vehicle.
Cheers D4 Alaska/Almond 2.7 TDV6 with E-diff & extra's.. 
Keep smilin' Pete.
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| 8th May 2010 2:04 am |
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JeffD4
Member Since: 25 Dec 2009
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Many thanks to all for the feedback. The D4 has the recovery points in the same place as the D3 from what I can see. Just needed to confirm that they were genuine recovery points (for using a snatch strap) and not just on road tow or tie down points. Land Rover Series IIA 1967
Discovery 300 Tdi 1998 (white, ARB bullbar, suspension lift, roof rack, Lightforce spots etc)
Discovery 4 3.0 Litre White, e-diff
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| 8th May 2010 9:05 am |
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Sniegy
Member Since: 01 May 2006
Location: Melbourne
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They are Recovery Points, Due to legalities LR will not make it known that they are/can be used for recovery due to some peoples stupidness & therefore leading to court cases if something goes wrong.
Obviously when using, do it with caution & dont be silly about it.
Cheers. D4 Alaska/Almond 2.7 TDV6 with E-diff & extra's..
Keep smilin' Pete.
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| 9th May 2010 1:08 am |
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Dan W
Member Since: 21 Jun 2008
Location: Brisbane
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Sniegy wrote:They are Recovery Points, Due to legalities LR will not make it known that they are/can be used for recovery due to some peoples stupidness & therefore leading to court cases if something goes wrong.
Cheers.
I'm not sure I buy into that argument. Why would it be any more problematic for Land Rover to certify/rate them as recovery points than it would be for ARB to certify/rate their after market stuff?
I'd be willing to bet the recovery points don't meet design standards and therefore cannot be rated (despite them probably, and anecdotally being strong enough).
....and we'd all have to admit the front one doesn't look like it's up to the task. 2012 MY13 SDV6 SE D4 Ipanema Sand with Almond leather
2012 TDI Passat - they reckon the DSG is crap, I reckon it's awesome
2010 MY11 Mitsubishi Challenger - Gone (it was a "Challenging Year")
2007 MY08 TDV6 SE - gone
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| 9th May 2010 2:05 am |
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Brede
Member Since: 17 Apr 2008
Location: Norway
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Dan W wrote:
....and we'd all have to admit the front one doesn't look like it's up to the task.
Thats the one that worries me a bit.. 
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| 9th May 2010 6:28 am |
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DG
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If you guys are so worried do a search for where one has failed over the last 6 years . Everyone I know has recovered off it in all manner of situations .....nobody died 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 9th May 2010 7:01 am |
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Dan A
Member Since: 22 Sep 2009
Location: wakefield
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I have recoved quite a few 18T skip wagons out of the mud and I have never broke anything
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| 9th May 2010 7:47 am |
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StornowaySA
Member Since: 23 Sep 2007
Location: Adelaide
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I have an email somewhere from one of the LR guys who managed the G4 Challenge - he says they are engineered (front and rear) at over 6 tonnes.
(I couldnt find any info anywhere on the net so wrote to LR - they said they couldnt/wouldnt advise what the "rating" was and referred me to the G4 guys and they said LR would never put it in writing "for legal reasons" but I would never ever have a problem as they had recovered dozens of LR's during all G4 stages (RRS, D3, Freelander etc) all using the front receovery point and never had one failed.) MY2010 D4 HSE 3.0, e-diff, 19inch MTR's; LLAMS Height adjustor, LR f & r light guards, LR side steps, LR bright finish side door mouldings; LR/Mantec G4 front bash plate, LR G4 Winch kit, Warn 9500lb Winch; GOE compressor guard, Uniden UHF, LR bright finish roof rails, LR G4 driving light kit, LR G4 ladder, 4 x extra rear compartment 12V sockets, Traxide dual battery system and Optima Yellowtop battery, ORS drawer system / fridge slide, LED rear compartment lighting.
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| 9th May 2010 8:37 am |
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JeffD4
Member Since: 25 Dec 2009
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Thanks BlackAdelaide, this is most reassuring. Think I will take a chance with the standard "recovery points", not that I intend to get bogged, but eventually it will likely happen Land Rover Series IIA 1967
Discovery 300 Tdi 1998 (white, ARB bullbar, suspension lift, roof rack, Lightforce spots etc)
Discovery 4 3.0 Litre White, e-diff
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| 9th May 2010 11:23 am |
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