Member Since: 23 Jul 2010
Location: hertfordshire
Posts: 5
You need a new Turbo and the EMU sofware needs updating
So says LR technical 9 months ago I had a problem with low power output and poor fuel consumption LR dealer checked the codes and said one of the EGR valves had gone faulty. Quote "its the side that doesnt go very often so we dont have stock". Part ordered and fitted appears to have solved problem. Now we roll forward 9 months and the car is pumping black smoke from both exhausts. Diagnostics plugged in "you need both EGR valves replacing" I mention the recently replaced EGR but they r insistent that it needs 2 now. In for replacement and it comes home with the same fault doing 18mpg an improvement on the 15 it went in with and less black smoke but still enough to cloak all following traffic. Back in and LR technical is now involved they crunch the numbers and come up with the solution "you need a new turbo fitted as the old one has broken its shaft due to the version of software in the EMU so will need to upgrade after fitting new Turbo. I am now getting a little suspicious and go on the net find this forum and make contact with bell auto services. "Go out to the car open the bonnet now look in front of the engine you will see a 4 inch pipe attached to the intercooler run your hands over it" Oh yes there's a split right along it "the problem is the diagnostics are only as good as the people using them and they didnt properly check what was happening" So I have now had 3 EGR valves fitted in 9 months and was supposed to have a Turbo and software upgrade probably costing £3000 inc VAT the turbo alone is £1200net. Needless to say i am not paying for the second 2 EGR fitting costs. Dont trust the dealer or LR technical double check and triple check that the work they propose needs to be carried out. The fix was a £35 pipe or you can buy a much better version from BAS for £95 inc delivery, that will be faster because guess what the LR version was not in stock!!!XXXXYes
25th Jul 2010 5:46 pm
grzesiul
Member Since: 11 May 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 6404
you got 2005 car mate why do you bother with EGRs blank the fecker off with BAS kit and you would have better more responsive vehicle with no more EGR issues takes about an hour to do
25th Jul 2010 5:53 pm
grzesiul
Member Since: 11 May 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 6404
oh and get the silicone pipe from Pete at BAS which would never fail ... problems sorted
25th Jul 2010 5:54 pm
aerobatix
Member Since: 23 Jul 2010
Location: hertfordshire
Posts: 5
Its on the agenda to do I agree Why didnt I ??? ignoranceXXXXYes
25th Jul 2010 5:55 pm
grzesiul
Member Since: 11 May 2008
Location: UK
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and yes never trust stealers at all...
25th Jul 2010 5:55 pm
Verydisco
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welcome to the forum mate
fitted the BAS EGR kit last year and the pipe last week, very hapy chap now l=Oo\________/oO=l l:Ool======loO:l
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25th Jul 2010 5:59 pm
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25th Jul 2010 6:04 pm
aerobatix
Member Since: 23 Jul 2010
Location: hertfordshire
Posts: 5
Now What???
Having sorted out the main problems I still have several to sort.
1. There is a whistle in the inlet system when under load
2. Fuel consumption has dropped to 17.5 from 21
I have heard there are potential issues with carbon buildup in the turbo vanes upgraded software or cleaning the turbo being several suggestions
Any IdeaXXXXYes
26th Aug 2010 5:21 pm
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Member Since: 11 May 2006
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17.5?? Now I'm not a techie type but there are few things I'd try, indeed did as I was seeing my mpg steadily drop couple of years ago. Air filter?? Service schedule only changes them every 45k, mine was manky inside when I looked at it so now change them every 15k. Noticed an immediate improvement.
Brakes binding?? Take car on run long enough to get properly warmed up then carefully touch the back of your hand to the centre of each wheel. Any hotter than others, any hotter than Luke warm? Could be binding brake caliper (I've had 3 out of 4 replaced for binding, one where disk was glowing after only a few miles). Alternatively if hot could be a binding park brake.
Might be worth emailing 10forcash, our resident D3 Guru and spend a bit on getting things properly checked out.
26th Aug 2010 5:45 pm
aerobatix
Member Since: 23 Jul 2010
Location: hertfordshire
Posts: 5
Thanks for the ideas tho they have already been checked, the whistle under load is a useful indicator but I dont know what it is,XXXXYes
26th Aug 2010 9:39 pm
garryc
Member Since: 08 May 2007
Location: Adelaide Hills
Posts: 259
Russell wrote:
Pete is a top bloke who knows LR,s he is also customer oriented.
Totally agree with that about Pete, he certainly is customer oriented 2013 D4, E-diff, Vision pack
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27th Aug 2010 7:29 am
ZacSmith
Member Since: 26 Aug 2010
Location: Dover
Posts: 709
Sorry - in your opinion is it worth blanking off the EGR's on a smooth running engine (05)? Will it prevent potential damage to the turbo in due course?
27th Aug 2010 11:07 am
D4JWW
Member Since: 20 Oct 2009
Location: London, UK
Posts: 1318
Definetly blank off the EGR, whish I could on my 2009 model, not sure if it would save turbo but would prevent brake down, poor running of good engine, why should run on its own exhaust fumes for part of each run, some believe the process improves fuel effeciency.
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