Member Since: 02 Aug 2007
Location: Stockholm
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The pre heater uses an electric glow plug to ignite, a small electric pump to circulate the coolant and runs the fan to heat the passenger compartment. Webasto heaters are designed to run for approx 20 minutes to pre-heat. You need to run the engine for at least the same amount of time in order not to drain the battery.
/Henrik[/quote]
Thanks Henrik! Sorry for hi-jacking this thread, but what kind of studded tyres do those of you living in the Nordic region use?
Nokian Hakkapellita 5
They have performed well the short time I've used them, we had a blitz freeze in October after a period of heavy rain, all the water froze and there was ice everywhere, cars and trucks in ditches all over the place but the Disco on studded tires didn't mind at all. Last winter I drove one without studs and the sheer weight of the car made me miss the extra grip studs give when braking on ice.
You can see the stud pattern on the pictures below:
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Somewhat back on topic:
Good luck with your expedition Ben!
6th Dec 2010 10:12 pm
DIEGUS
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Member Since: 16 Nov 2010
Location: Calgary
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I don't know if you have gone yet but this is what I have fitted to my LR3 in Canada. I have an engine block heater. Plug it in to a electric socket and leave. The block stays warm and this helps the engine start with less strain. I have already had to use it when we had -32 (-40 with the windchill) and it was left outside all day in the car park. (Some car parks have plug points so that you can plug your car in.) As for tires, I went with the Nokian Hakkas R SUV. These work as well as the studded tires but without the extra road noise caused by the studs. Works well on all road surfaces, ice, rain, snow etc. Above 7C the tire life will not be that good as the warmer road service will chew the soft rubber.
Have a good trip.
Member Since: 08 Mar 2010
Location: Helsinki
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I don't know if your are here in Finland allready, but... to you and others:
VFR800 wrote:
I don't know if you have gone yet but this is what I have fitted to my LR3 in Canada. I have an engine block heater. Plug it in to a electric socket and leave.
This is good if you have access to plug points. Looks like this:
...and a good add to that is cabin heater. Like this:
...and you plug it like this:
BUT DO NOT LEAVE IT ON ALL THE TIME, cause in that way your gonna ruin the motor oil. Main rules for use is:
From +5 C (yes +) to -5 C plug it for approx. 30 min, from -5 C to -10 C approx. 1 h and from -10 C to ... MAX 2h.
And if you want you can add a battery charger to the system too.
VFR800 wrote:
As for tires, I went with the Nokian Hakkas R SUV. These work as well as the studded tires but without the extra road noise caused by the studs. ...
And for tires - studded are THE BEST as tested in many occations. And the narrow ones are better than wide ones - more (down)force to ground = better grip.
Then the small and easy but very usefull "trick" is the allready mentioned - cardboard infront of the grill (you can put it behind the grill very easily) to stop the engine to get too much cold air. It's usefull to avoind getting moisture in to the electrics too. Some cars have even "habit" to sug in moisture in to their tubos intercoolers. This leads to when enough moisture is gathered, it froses and blocks the air flow and the engine is ruined ( VWs, Seats and Audis are "famous" about this).
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22nd Dec 2010 9:46 pm
finrover
Member Since: 08 Mar 2010
Location: Helsinki
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I have Defa.
It is very important that you use those ones desinged to use in car, cause for indoor use ones can star a fire in your car.
The car cabin heater are designed not to over heat - there is a fuse builed in. And they are designed to be used in moisture conditions.
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22nd Dec 2010 10:07 pm
finrover
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Location: Helsinki
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... and one more thing:
BEWARE of REINDEERS!!!
If you see 1 there is the other one, 10, 20, 50, 100, 1000 ...
AND they are only half wild, so they are used to people and cars, and are not AFRAID of then.
But only in Lapland - Norway, Sveden, Finland and Russia. (order of the counties is from west to east)
22nd Dec 2010 10:21 pm
bontempi
Member Since: 20 Dec 2005
Location: On location :)
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MWN wrote:
Thanks Henrik! Sorry for hi-jacking this thread, but what kind of studded tyres do those of you living in the Nordic region use?
/MWN
I use studded Nokian Hakka SUVs. Have been using these for four winters now. Excellent grip on both snow and ice.
/HenrikDisco 3 TDV6 HSE "Ark Royal"
Mini Cooper D
25th Dec 2010 5:56 pm
bontempi
Member Since: 20 Dec 2005
Location: On location :)
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finrover wrote:
BUT DO NOT LEAVE IT ON ALL THE TIME, cause in that way your gonna ruin the motor oil. Main rules for use is:
From +5 C (yes +) to -5 C plug it for approx. 30 min, from -5 C to -10 C approx. 1 h and from -10 C to ... MAX 2h.
Why would heating the coolant ruin the oil? I have used heaters for longer intervals for years without problems. Many industrial and marine engines are on permanent pre heat.
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25th Dec 2010 6:29 pm
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Let me know if you want one RayIDTOOL PRO / Faultmate programing and BAS remaping services in Norway.
Diagnostic for most Land rover vehicles
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27th Dec 2010 10:08 pm
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