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Preacher
Member Since: 15 Aug 2009
Location: NE Victoria
Posts: 141
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4WDriving with the club on the weekend - had to snatch a Nissan out of a bog hole - not a hard snatch but it did the rear diff in. Is there a weekness in the LR diff as well as most other components?????
dj
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7th Jun 2011 10:02 pm |
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caverD3
Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
Posts: 6922
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Sorry to hear that preacher,
There was an issue with early diffs failing. Gradual failure due to wear of parts. So sudden failure is unusual. Is it an ordinary or electronic rear diff? “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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7th Jun 2011 11:50 pm |
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Preacher
Member Since: 15 Aug 2009
Location: NE Victoria
Posts: 141
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Unnecessary quote removed
caverD3
yes BUT does a snatch wreck a D3 diff - I know if a Toyota snatches in reverse it can easily blow the front diff - but what about a D3 - most disalousioned
dj
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8th Jun 2011 9:41 am |
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D4JWW
Member Since: 20 Oct 2009
Location: London, UK
Posts: 1318
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Please provide more info, able to drive, noise, etc?? A few mods... and keeping it all running...Faultmate MSV2
MY09EGR's blanked Thanks Bellautos, BAS
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8th Jun 2011 10:50 am |
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Preacher
Member Since: 15 Aug 2009
Location: NE Victoria
Posts: 141
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Unnecessary quote removed
yes it was drivable - didn't really notice the noise in the bush as only driving slowly however on the road sounded actually like a vibration and felt blt like a spark plug had come off and only running on 5 if you can relate to that situation - the faster it went the louder it got. Slipped into N while driving and giving it a rev no noise or vibration only when power on.
dj
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8th Jun 2011 12:02 pm |
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Big_Mark
Member Since: 12 Jan 2011
Location: Snohomish, WA
Posts: 32
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Did you get under the vehicle for a visual inspection? Look at the axle shafts if they are in tact try to move them around, if they move you've got a problem. Other than that we need more info, do you have a diff lock in the rear of your vehicle (Tow package)? "The Apocalypse!" Coming Soon, to a town near you!
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8th Jun 2011 5:35 pm |
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Gareth
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Member Since: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Bramhall
Posts: 26774
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Its certainly a known issue, diff failure due to contaminated oil has happened to a few on here. I would not call it a major fail point however, there have been relatively few compared to the number of vehicles out there.
The D3 diffs tend to degenerate slowly and start making noises. I have not heard of one catastrophically failing like Defender diffs do. The CV joints are more likely to fail.
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8th Jun 2011 7:11 pm |
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GraemeS
Member Since: 17 Mar 2008
Location: NSW
Posts: 706
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Hopefully it a broken CV. Home of LLAMS, for LRs and Jeep GCs
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8th Jun 2011 9:13 pm |
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Preacher
Member Since: 15 Aug 2009
Location: NE Victoria
Posts: 141
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dealer sais definately diff - not an e-diff on mine
dj
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8th Jun 2011 10:00 pm |
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caverD3
Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
Posts: 6922
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I have not heard of any sudden diff failures you may be unlucky. Any noise from it before it the off road trip? “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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8th Jun 2011 11:17 pm |
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Preacher
Member Since: 15 Aug 2009
Location: NE Victoria
Posts: 141
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No none at all
dj
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9th Jun 2011 8:51 am |
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GraemeS
Member Since: 17 Mar 2008
Location: NSW
Posts: 706
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Thats no good DJ.
I ordered an e-diff because the D2's frequent TC activation for the rear wheels made me quite nervous about the diff longevity. It will be of interest to find out if your diff had been on its way out for some time or if all the damage was done at the time of the snatch, as well as what exactly has been busted. Home of LLAMS, for LRs and Jeep GCs
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9th Jun 2011 8:59 am |
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euangibson
Member Since: 24 Dec 2010
Location: Borders
Posts: 11027
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caverD3 wrote:I have not heard of any sudden diff failures you may be unlucky. Any noise from it before it the off road trip?
my front diff went in March....warranty only covered "sudden mechanical failure" not wear and tear........they paid up which still surprises me I'm no mechanic but it felt more of a gradual degrading over time,but you certainly have a case for sudden mechanical failure
Just to warn you,I was informed by my Indy that there are none of the "old" stock around its a new design (I double checked with TLO on here and that is correct)......was over £600 for a new one...thats about 2million over there..... "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...
Locking rear E-diff
RLD spare wheel protector & sump guard
Extended roof rails
Series 111 mudflaps
Black side tubes,grill and vents
Timed climate remote
Hids4u interior lights
D4 Firenze my2012 HSE
D3 Java 2005 SE manual (sold,sadly,thanks for the memories)
1966 '88 Series 2a....still starts in the morning better than I do...
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9th Jun 2011 9:16 am |
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George II
Member Since: 22 Apr 2008
Location: Albany WA
Posts: 52
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Hi, just had my front diff replaced today (see post under rotational noise) , (89,000) . but I also had the rear diff replaced at about 30,000 . so yes i also wonder how strong things are built these days . And mine have gone without heavy 4WDing - the most I do is a bit of towing.
Thankfully the extended Warrantee has paid up. 07 White TDV6 SE ,ARB bar & warn 9500 winch, Rhino aero racks, Thomas super pump compressor, duel batteries, Hella spotties, UHF. Mitchell Bros Tow Hitch, LED module (towing with LED taillights), General Grabber Tyres.
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9th Jun 2011 11:30 am |
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Preacher
Member Since: 15 Aug 2009
Location: NE Victoria
Posts: 141
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There has been a funny whoosh whoosh noise since I purchased the vehicle - gradually getting worse.
LR said it was coming from the tranny - had it pulled down and both it and the torque convertor were like new - maybe just maybe it was the diff afterall - won't know untyil I get it back and check
dj 05 Bonati Grey TDV6 SE, triple Rhino roof racks, rooftop tent, Traxside USI-160 system, triple batteries with duel yellow tops, GME UHF. Mitchell Bros tow hitch, LED internal lights, 265/70/17 maxis bighorns, steel rims, Llams, Maxtrax, Engel and Bushman fridges, Hema navigator, Engine remap. Towing 12ft O/R Regal Desert Series.
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9th Jun 2011 12:58 pm |
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