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Maddison
Member Since: 21 Oct 2005
Location: Melbourne
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Can anyone help with this issue. Driving along with no sign of a problem. Suddenly the car looses all drive, the engine is working normally, nothing comes up on the dash. From stop the car wants to move, anything up hill and car will not move. On the flat it tries to move, sometimes move a few feet, other times will not move at all. Have tried high and low range, forward, reverse, no go. My Landrover dealer in Melbourne has had the car for 4 weeks and cannot find the problem. Have tried a new gearbox - worked for 2 km then same problem, cannot find any issues with the transfer case or ECU.
Has anyone heard of a problem like this, if so I would love to hear about it, as Landrover have no idea. Maya Gold June 05 Disco3 HDV6 HSE AT2 Tyres Mitchell Bros Tow Hitch
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 26th Jun 2011 9:17 am |
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Dorko
Member Since: 07 Apr 2010
Location: Perth
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The dealer has had it for 4 weeks? Ummm that is itself would be concerning...  Surely they would be able to trouble shoot it...surely 4 weeks... you are a calm man 
Hope you have some results soon mate Dorko
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| 26th Jun 2011 12:34 pm |
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caverD3
Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
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Gear lever not engaging properly? I think there has been some issues with the connectors before?
Did they check the spline on the box and socket for it on the transfer case?
This has been shown to have no lube and has worn giving a drivetrain clunk
Did yours clunk before the box was changed?
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| 26th Jun 2011 12:44 pm |
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disco4x4au
Member Since: 19 Jan 2006
Location: Perth
Posts: 409
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Have they checked the obvious - a CV joint or CV retaining clip?
Cheers,
Gordon ex - 2006 D3 TDV6 SE, silver, with lots of stuff - R.I.P.
ex - 2009 D3 TDV6 SE, silver, had lots of stuff too!
Now - 2010 RRS 3.0 TDV6, rimini red, 18" rims + Cooper LTZ, rear eLocker, Spider tuning box, GOE protection plates and rock sliders, GOE 3way shortened rods.
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| 27th Jun 2011 2:48 am |
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garrycol
Member Since: 06 Dec 2010
Location: Canberra
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This rings the usual danger alarms about the lack of knowledge of dealers and their propensity to not diagnose problems but to simply replace things at owners expense until the problem is fixed. I hope you have refused to pay for the gearbox.
While I have had no problems with my car to date I must admit I am beginning to wish I had bought something else. Of the other 3 people I personally know with D3s all three have just spent huge dollars on gearboxes, transfer cases, egr valves and other things - and on vehicles with only moderate kms.
Garry
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| 27th Jun 2011 6:15 am |
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Maddison
Member Since: 21 Oct 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 23
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The gear lever is working fine, or so it feels and appears on the dash to show which gear you are in. When the car lost drive there was no noise, suddenly no drive.
If it was a CV joint wouldn't there still be drive on the other axle?
So far I have not paid any money. I was quoted $8500 to replace the gearbox, as this is where they originally diagnosed the problem to be. So far it appears that there was nothing wrong with my original gearbox. Now the dealer has taken the new replacement gearbox out and sent it away for testing to make sure it is OK. My thoughts are that the ECU should need a serious look over. The dealer has said that they do not replace the ECU unless there is an obvious problem as LR in their wisdom have designed them so that when they are fitted into a car they cannot be reused by any other car and they are not cheap. So to try a new ECU ca be a very expensive episode.
I am amazed that, according to my dealer, no other car has had a problem like this.
Any more suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Maya Gold June 05 Disco3 HDV6 HSE AT2 Tyres Mitchell Bros Tow Hitch
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| 27th Jun 2011 10:49 am |
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garrycol
Member Since: 06 Dec 2010
Location: Canberra
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As Carver mentioned - when the box was out did they check the splines that join the box and the transfer case?
As I indicated above - repair by replacement at owners expense until they fix the problem seems to be norm these day.
Garry
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| 27th Jun 2011 12:50 pm |
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Bushwanderer
Member Since: 27 Nov 2007
Location: Northern Rivers, NSW, Australia
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Hi Maddison,
To answer your question - I certainly haven't heard of this before.
(I know that it's a typical dealer response, but I'm not a dealer).
I hope that you get it sorted shortly.
Best Wishes,
Peter The Bearded Dragon
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| 27th Jun 2011 9:51 pm |
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disco4x4au
Member Since: 19 Jan 2006
Location: Perth
Posts: 409
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Maddison wrote:The gear lever is working fine, or so it feels and appears on the dash to show which gear you are in. When the car lost drive there was no noise, suddenly no drive.
If it was a CV joint wouldn't there still be drive on the other axle?
No, the car will drive in fits and starts, and only really make progress in low-range rock-crawl.
Cheers,
Gordon ex - 2006 D3 TDV6 SE, silver, with lots of stuff - R.I.P.
ex - 2009 D3 TDV6 SE, silver, had lots of stuff too!
Now - 2010 RRS 3.0 TDV6, rimini red, 18" rims + Cooper LTZ, rear eLocker, Spider tuning box, GOE protection plates and rock sliders, GOE 3way shortened rods.
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| 28th Jun 2011 12:06 am |
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Maddison
Member Since: 21 Oct 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 23
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The news as of today. The dealer has fitted a new ECU today and as soon as the engine is started it comes up with a sensor error in the transfer case. It says the transfer case is over heating and it is shutting down the drive. Hopefully this is the end of the problem. Will advise the outcome. Maya Gold June 05 Disco3 HDV6 HSE AT2 Tyres Mitchell Bros Tow Hitch
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| 28th Jun 2011 11:35 am |
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character
Member Since: 31 Dec 2007
Location: wiltshire
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keep us posted, very keen to see what develops as I too have had the same issues on two occassions after a hard days towing (around 400 + miles). This is 3 months after a new box was fitted and 4 months after a new transfer box.
I hasten to add, the dealership originally advised that the old box needed changing due to the same symptoms 
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| 28th Jun 2011 1:47 pm |
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character
Member Since: 31 Dec 2007
Location: wiltshire
Posts: 5781
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update for yer guys re our auto box, slipped between 3rd to 4th last week then 12 miles later as we pulled in to the auction house with a loaded car transporter, up came transmission fault and "F" on the gearbox selector followed by only driving in third. Let him go to sleep for 10 minutes and re-started... no issues.
Next day after another 170 miles up comes "transmission fault" followed by HDC special programmes not available" and then "suspension lowered". Pulled off to the side of the motorway for 10 mins, then re-start and off we go for another 53 miles to our LR dealer. Stuck him on IDS, worked out the fault codes and the related mileage for the previous events, TURNS OUT TO BE THE BRAKE PEDAL SWITCH 
Nicked one off a sales car on the ramp (it was after 6.00pm on a thursday), then cleared all the faults and another 275 miles then next days all is well (including pulling a 3500KG Vauxhall van on the trailer up a 16% hill  ).
So no gear slippage since, no error messages since (fingers crossed) 
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| 4th Jul 2011 2:59 pm |
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Bushwanderer
Member Since: 27 Nov 2007
Location: Northern Rivers, NSW, Australia
Posts: 2050
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Phew! The Bearded Dragon
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| 4th Jul 2011 10:52 pm |
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Peterall
Member Since: 15 Aug 2008
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 15
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So, what has happened Madison?
We are all waiting with bated breath. 
2005 SE TDV6, BAS remap; Black Widow drawer system; GME 3440 UHF; TPMS; Traxide dual battery controller; Cooper AT3's ; Mitchell Bros tow hitch;
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| 8th Jul 2011 11:08 am |
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Maddison
Member Since: 21 Oct 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 23
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Sorry guys for no updates, but there is not much change. I still do not have a driveable disco. We have had live diagnostics links to UK that as I understand have not really helped. The current diagnosis is that it is partly to do with the electronic park brake and an associated sensor. But this is not definite, but they say they are close to finding the problem. When they do find the cure I will advise the outcome. Maya Gold June 05 Disco3 HDV6 HSE AT2 Tyres Mitchell Bros Tow Hitch
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| 16th Jul 2011 11:28 am |
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