Member Since: 28 Aug 2007
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 3292
Just discovered a new feature...
...bet you never knew this existed!
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2020 SDV6 D5 HSE, Carpathian Grey +
2022 Tesla Model Y LR... almost Carpathian Grey
Previously : 2005 TDV6 SE Auto, Cairns Blue (288K) - ours for 16 years
22nd Aug 2011 5:12 pm
wvlenthe
Member Since: 07 Jan 2009
Location: Arnhem
Posts: 1967
Well, no, but it IS the same vehicle feature that the LR dealer told me to carry the transmission oil sample in on my way to the transmission people... in a plastic cup... spilling prohibited by duct tape.
WiljoD3 V8 HSE Auto in Zermatt silver - driveway version gone but not forgotten, only the living room cupboard version remains
22nd Aug 2011 5:37 pm
ronp
Member Since: 29 Nov 2006
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 15263
I don't have one of these in my D4
I keep saying the D4 is not as practical as the D3 .....
.... and this goes some way to prove it!!
But on the plus side, now a damn good reason for not buying swmbo flowers
Didn't VW do that years ago with the flower vase in the Beetle The End
22nd Aug 2011 6:35 pm
euangibson
Member Since: 24 Dec 2010
Location: Borders
Posts: 11027
Ronp
On a serious note
I have followed with interest your posts with regard to comparisons between the D3 and D4.....to my mind the whole "go beyond" ethos of the D3 has been lost.
Surely the whole point of any Land Rover is its useability and practicality....correct me if I am wrong,but you seem to think both those attributes have been lost,or at least diluted, in the new incarnation ?
ps If I'm wrong,I won't be sending flowers,as you won't have any way of transporting them "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...
Locking rear E-diff
RLD spare wheel protector & sump guard
Extended roof rails
Series 111 mudflaps
Black side tubes,grill and vents
Timed climate remote
Hids4u interior lights
D4 Firenze my2012 HSE
D3 Java 2005 SE manual (sold,sadly,thanks for the memories)
1966 '88 Series 2a....still starts in the morning better than I do...
22nd Aug 2011 6:40 pm
ronp
Member Since: 29 Nov 2006
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 15263
Yes ...... always on the road less travelled 🚧
22nd Aug 2011 9:28 pm
albal
Member Since: 31 Jul 2011
Location: Southampton
Posts: 592
Nice one, will make those VW owners envious who can only carry one flower in their beetle.
Ronp......On a serious note................the whole "go beyond" ethos of the D3 has been lost........Surely the whole point of any Land Rover is its useability and practicality....correct me if I am wrong,but you seem to think both those attributes have been lost,or at least diluted, in the new incarnation......
You would like to think & perhaps hope that a product gets "better" as it goes the product cycle of early adopter, mture product etc....problems are sorted....isssues are dealt with...customers / users are listened to...
This doesnt seem the case with LandRover.....marketing who decide what we have to have make the decisions.........what was good is now not as good.
I am bitterly dissapointed what was a do anything vehicle that was durable & at home on country roads bad conditions has now been tarted up with bling (painted wheels arches, bumpers) had significant things taken out (rear AC entirely) other parts that were standard are now at cost - optional.
I realise that LandRover have to keep the product fresh to make a business - but this shouldnt be at the cost of losing or disappointing customers (some of those long standing & loyal...through bad times when product was crap). but not at the expense of dumbing down whilst blinging up what was a superb product & distancing potential customers.
I did & was considering changing to a D4 (cant say upgrading as it clearly isnt an upgrade) & thought again that a change was a retrograde step where I ended up with a dented bank balance (far too costly), an inferior vehicle (in my opinion) with only the dealer getting the profit & the recipient "gaining"my old car.
Seriously considering the New VWToureg (the one with Low Ration & all the options)...... I havent actually seen one in the flesh yet.......BREXIT - done properly.
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Jag XK-but sadly no DIPSTICK...HUGE design fault
FL2 has DIPSTICK..."real comfort in rear seats"
VW Golf wondermobile (?)..has real DIPSTICK
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23rd Aug 2011 6:51 am
chalky
Member Since: 21 Aug 2008
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 3145
I've posted on a similar vein in another thread with regards to swapping mine for a D4
Whilst I can see the allure of the new front end and engine displacement being upped to 3.0 there is not much else that makes me want a D4, I've said this before a dozen times ! Having crossed over from the Defender 2 forum upgrading to a D3 still has me grinning like a Cheshire cat, 18 months of ownership and I'm still not looking for a change !
The new Tourag however !!!!!!
Only time will tell,
I reckon I could hang on in till the new defender actually arrives ! the D4, too much at the minute for me.Only dead fish go with the Flow !
23rd Aug 2011 8:46 am
fat bloke
Member Since: 07 Aug 2006
Location: OXFORD
Posts: 1257
Wait for D5 using same floorpan as new R/R & SPORT.
25th Aug 2011 8:47 pm
DG Site Moderator
Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
Posts: 50978
[quote="BLFarrar"]
euangibson wrote:
I am bitterly dissapointed what was a do anything vehicle that was durable & at home on country roads bad conditions has now been tarted up with bling (painted wheels arches, bumpers) had significant things taken out (rear AC entirely) other parts that were standard are now at cost - optional.
There's a strong possibility that the new Defender prototype being shown in Germany next week will be based on the D3/4 platform so hopefully that will hand back some rough and ready requirements those that miss it on the disco 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
25th Aug 2011 8:55 pm
PdP
Member Since: 20 Jun 2011
Location: Cape Town
Posts: 25
chalky wrote:
The new Tourag however !!!!!!
Don't get too excited about the Toureg, new or old. The spare wheel setup is a disaster, unless you get an old one with a rear mounted spare carrier bracket - which I was told, the new ones can't have.
I came close to buying a Toureg but changed my mind when the sales rep couldn’t tell me what I should do with the flat tyre once I'd replaced it with the spare that is stored deflated (under the back floorboard to save space) and needs to be inflated
The flat tyre doesn't fit into the hole left by the spare and you have to make a plan with it - which is a problem if it's wet and muddy, and the boot is full of your camping gear...
A truly brilliant piece of German engineering…
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