Member Since: 22 Feb 2011
Location: Belgium
Posts: 337
looking for, TDV8+gearbox :)
Basically, I'm looking for a complete engine, preferably 4,4 TDV8 complete with wiring,
auto box, complete with wiring
to drop in a disco3
so all parts that are different, I would be needing, anyone knows where to find this? or could help?
20th Nov 2011 10:43 pm
~Rich~
Member Since: 16 Mar 2009
Location: Sydney
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Seems like a lot of trouble to end up with a bardardized D3, why don't you just go out and buy the FFRR with that engine? Or even a RRS with the 3.6 TDV8?2014 SDV6 HSE White, LLAMS Height Controller, Tinted Glass, Tuff Ant Sliders and 18" steel wheels, Safari Snorkel, Rhino Rack Platform, ARB Air Compressor, Custom Drawer and storage unit -http://www.box.com/s/jem0ilac3cner2mexq64 UHF CB, 4x4 Intellegence RWC, 120ltr Long range tank, Rock Sliders and Compressor protection plate Beanie grill, De Tango.
21st Nov 2011 3:10 am
grzesiul
Member Since: 11 May 2008
Location: UK
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might not be able to fit it in at all mate
21st Nov 2011 8:27 am
henry-john
Member Since: 22 Feb 2011
Location: Belgium
Posts: 337
had some trouble with the 2,7,
had some blue smoke,
well,.... in a few days, it became a lot worse
so, right now, I don't know what to do,
blue isn't oil just smells like diesel
21st Nov 2011 8:35 am
wvlenthe
Member Since: 07 Jan 2009
Location: Arnhem
Posts: 1967
I read a post on here that the 3.0 tdv6 is a better engine in some ways than the tdv8. It has been chipped by Pete Bell to deliver as many BHP and 150% torque compared to the 4.4 l V8 petrol. And it certainly fits the d3 as it is available for the d4.
Although the Tdv8 might be appealing (this coming from a V8 driver) the 3.0 tdv6 may be the more logical investment if you are going to change engines. The cost of conversion will be lower I suspect when compared to the tdv8... But that is speculation, not knowledge.
Regards, WiljoD3 V8 HSE Auto in Zermatt silver - driveway version gone but not forgotten, only the living room cupboard version remains
21st Nov 2011 2:58 pm
D4JWW
Member Since: 20 Oct 2009
Location: London, UK
Posts: 1318
henry-john wrote:
had some trouble with the 2,7,
had some blue smoke,
well,.... in a few days, it became a lot worse
so, right now, I don't know what to do,
blue isn't oil just smells like diesel
So you had enough Of turbo engine? If you change can I have the de-cat pipe? A few mods... and keeping it all running...Faultmate MSV2
MY09EGR's blanked Thanks Bellautos, BAS
21st Nov 2011 3:33 pm
henry-john
Member Since: 22 Feb 2011
Location: Belgium
Posts: 337
wvlenthe wrote:
I read a post on here that the 3.0 tdv6 is a better engine in some ways than the tdv8. It has been chipped by Pete Bell to deliver as many BHP and 150% torque compared to the 4.4 l V8 petrol. And it certainly fits the d3 as it is available for the d4.
Although the Tdv8 might be appealing (this coming from a V8 driver) the 3.0 tdv6 may be the more logical investment if you are going to change engines. The cost of conversion will be lower I suspect when compared to the tdv8... But that is speculation, not knowledge.
Regards, Wiljo
TDV8 would be nice, since I'm changing engine, prefer spending a few extra ££ to have the engine that I want, in the car that I like the most
@D4JWW, I'll keep the engine anywayz, and try make it work again, to drop it in a S1
21st Nov 2011 4:21 pm
Japseroony
Member Since: 11 Feb 2008
Location: North East
Posts: 792
If you are talking about the new 4.4 TDV8 it works on a different can-bus system to the 2.7 TDV6 or 3.6 TDV8 so I doubt very much if you would get it running - sorry.
Also, whay do you need the gearbox Was the D3 a manual If not then the TDV6 and TDV8 use the same box, just some different plates and converter.
Finally, would you not be better off looking for a replacement engine as you can pick them up for reasonable money. I have a Jag unit which with a small amount of time and using some of the old parts such as inlet manifolds etc would drop straight in.
PM me if you want to know more."UNDERSTEER" ---is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" -is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" ------------is how far you take the fence with you.
21st Nov 2011 5:45 pm
henry-john
Member Since: 22 Feb 2011
Location: Belgium
Posts: 337
japseroony, thx for the advice!
did not know about the can bus tough
Same gearbox, than I can use the auto box I already have!
and the jag unit, was a Biturbo system, wasn't it?
and the disco a single turbo unit?
I'll be looking for a complete 3,6 engine thx!!
21st Nov 2011 5:47 pm
Japseroony
Member Since: 11 Feb 2008
Location: North East
Posts: 792
Yes the Jag unit is a twin turbo and the D3 a single turbo but other than that and the sumps the engine is basically the same "UNDERSTEER" ---is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" -is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" ------------is how far you take the fence with you.
21st Nov 2011 5:52 pm
henry-john
Member Since: 22 Feb 2011
Location: Belgium
Posts: 337
would like to run it IN the disco as a twin turbo system, but I suspect to do that there are many problems?
21st Nov 2011 6:57 pm
Japseroony
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Location: North East
Posts: 792
Sorry, I really dont know if that would work "UNDERSTEER" ---is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" -is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" ------------is how far you take the fence with you.
22nd Nov 2011 10:16 am
Riccardo
Member Since: 20 Feb 2010
Location: Porto (was Kent)
Posts: 4123
Had that engine on an S-Type
I think there were also other changes made to optimise the engine to a more off-road use. It might not be a good choice
PS:
found something on wikipedia
Land Rover version is called 'LR-TDV6 Diesel engine'. It has a single turbocharger, of a larger capacity than the twin-turbo design. This is to improve the engine's low-speed torque range for off-road and towing applications. It is also fitted with a very large, engine driven cooling fan to support low speed, but high load driving such as those that may be encountered in desert conditions. Other changes made to the Land Rover version of the engine over the Jaguar/Peugeot versions include a deeper high-capacity sump with improved baffles to maintain oil pressure at extreme off-road angles and multi-layered external seals to keep out dust, mud and water.
22nd Nov 2011 11:59 am
Japseroony
Member Since: 11 Feb 2008
Location: North East
Posts: 792
Riccardo, the engine is the same but some of the ancillaries are different such as the fan, single turbo unit and sump etc, but other than that they are the same engine so by using the parts off the original engine it will be fine - unless the parts mentioned are damaged etc
Simple job to swap the mentioned parts across from one to the other "UNDERSTEER" ---is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" -is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" ------------is how far you take the fence with you.
22nd Nov 2011 2:31 pm
Riccardo
Member Since: 20 Feb 2010
Location: Porto (was Kent)
Posts: 4123
I see, (sorry not very good in mechanics).
I knew that there were "adaptations" (in addition to only one bigger turbo) to make it more suitable for the different kind of use but if those things can be easily changed then it should not be a problem I guess.
In terms of performance I think there were about 17 more horse power with similar torque
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Was the D3 a manual 
