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amazing
Member Since: 05 Mar 2011
Location: chengdu
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| LR4 (2011） vs Jeep Grand Cherokee （2012） |
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http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suvs/1...ewall.html
the new jeep looks good and I like the rear wishbones (followed a few and looked at the Mclass merc before choosing the D4))
but no plans to change just yet It is better to have and not need it then need and not have it.
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 12th Dec 2011 12:06 am |
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Hairy Dan
Member Since: 19 Jan 2011
Location: Co. Durham
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They did a short test on the Jeep on last weeks Fifth Gear, seems to have a similar system to the D4 ie turning a knob to select different settings like mud and ruts sand etc. They seemed to like it the only complaints were the suspension was very hard in off road settings, they said it raised the suspension up to its highest point and then felt solid and the other complaint was the price at about £42000. Cheers Ian
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| 12th Dec 2011 6:32 am |
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tempestv8
Member Since: 11 Oct 2006
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 57
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The spec list on the top shelf JGC is very long indeed. Has features that are not available on the D4 like heated rear seats, heated/cooled front seats, electrochromatic dimming side mirrors, heated steering wheel, radar cruise control, etc. Looks like this end of the luxury SUV market is heating up with competition from Jeep.
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| 13th Dec 2011 5:00 am |
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amazing
Member Since: 05 Mar 2011
Location: chengdu
Posts: 1542
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mine has heated rear seats
my friends has the radar cruise control and others here have heated steering wheels
so dimming side mirrors ..coming to a D4 near you..soon
cooled seats would be nice It is better to have and not need it then need and not have it.
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| 13th Dec 2011 7:07 am |
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mariusjnr
Member Since: 20 Dec 2009
Location: Gauteng
Posts: 200
 
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The Jeep "Terrain Response" doesnt come close to that of the D3 not to mention the D4. It works but the LR system is just decades ahead with response times and efficiency. 2012 Discovery 4 SDV6 SE 50mm Suspension Lift, Front Runner RR, Drawers, Tuffstuff Underbody Armour.
2008 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE 50mm Suspension lift, 33" BFG MT, Rocksliders, Bashplate. 250 000km Sold
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 S, Snorkel, TorqueTune Remap, Club 250 000km, Sold
2002 Discovery 2 TD5, Roof rack, Club 250 000km, Drowned 
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| 13th Dec 2011 8:31 am |
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A1GSS
Member Since: 12 Sep 2010
Location: Saffron Walden, Essex
Posts: 4691
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The clue is in the text...
Quote:"...where the drivers had the biggest complaint -- it takes a little time to learn the controls. Once you understand them, though, venturing off-road is simple..."
Really America, how hard can it be. ____
Gone: 10MY L320 RR Sport HSE, Ipanema Sand
Gone: 20MY Jaguar iPace HSE, Silicon Silver
Gone: 17MY RR Evoque SE Tech, Loire Blue
Gone: 08MY Discovery 3 XS, Stornoway Grey
Gone: 07MY FFRR TDV8 Vogue, Stornoway Grey
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| 13th Dec 2011 8:44 am |
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lespes
Member Since: 17 Sep 2009
Location: Sitting Down
Posts: 2232
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Pricing was interesting, they pay the same state side in dollars as we do pounds.
Perhaps we are also providing a subsidy to American buyers as well as everyone else in the world D4 Landmark MY16 Santorini Black THE LAST
D4 HSE MY12 Marmais Teal: Gone. Missed a lot!
Freelander 2 SD HSE MY11 Silver:Thankfully gone.
D4 HSE MY11 Silver: Gone missed !
Range Rover Sport MY06 HSE Buck Blue: Gone missed!
Discovery D2 TD5 Facelift MY Red Gone Missed!
Discovery D2 TD5 Cobalt Blue: Gone Missed!
Discovery D1 Auto Oxford Blue Not missed at all!
Discovery D1 Avalon Blue First LR! missed!
Now demoted to a VW
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| 13th Dec 2011 9:15 am |
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mariusjnr
Member Since: 20 Dec 2009
Location: Gauteng
Posts: 200
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You think you pay a lot have a look at the South Africa LR website. With the current Exchange rates the
Defender starts at 26,192.3 GBP
Freelander starts at 30,855.7 GBP
Discovery 4 starts at around 50,675.2 GBP
Baby RR Starts at 45,312.3 GBP
Range Rover Sport Starts at 69,017.9 GBP
FFRR Starts at 98,241.8 GBP 2012 Discovery 4 SDV6 SE 50mm Suspension Lift, Front Runner RR, Drawers, Tuffstuff Underbody Armour.
2008 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE 50mm Suspension lift, 33" BFG MT, Rocksliders, Bashplate. 250 000km Sold
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 S, Snorkel, TorqueTune Remap, Club 250 000km, Sold
2002 Discovery 2 TD5, Roof rack, Club 250 000km, Drowned
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| 13th Dec 2011 10:28 am |
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choppa60
Member Since: 16 Oct 2009
Location: chelsea tractor land ....london
Posts: 904
 
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 Ridiculous , there is no comparison  2008 ,hse, it does what it says .
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| 13th Dec 2011 11:04 am |
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cherokee
Member Since: 03 Jul 2007
Location: preston
Posts: 562
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Just to put your minds at rest incase you were thinking jeep or D4, there is no comparison,the Jeep
is a hard ride every bump felt, steering vague, sloping tailgate restricts boot and the only model
that has air suspension is the overland and as someone said in an earlier post starts at 42K ish,
I got offered one with a few extras 47K they offered me 18k for my 06 SE D3 3months ago,I
ordered a D4 day after, had it 3 weeks now, well pleased. Always walk behind a Shooter and
In front of a Sh*ter
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| 14th Dec 2011 8:29 am |
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lr-80
Member Since: 19 Jul 2011
Location: Oslo
Posts: 69
 
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Ever wondered what the green plates on Norwegian cars are? Most Discoverys and Defenders and other similarly sized over here are commercials with only front seats due to only 25% of normal registration tax:
D4: 109-131K (commercial only 2 seats green plates from 76K)
FFRR: 175-283K
RRS: 117-238K
Evoque: 56-102K (not including 2wd)
Freelander: 51-75K (not including 2wd)
Defender: from 44K commercial only 2 seats
These are not official Landrover prices but taken from www.Finn.no Norwegian car sales website. Yesterday my D3 celebrated it's fifth birthday and tax for registering as 7-seat non commercial dropped so I can now take both my son and wife and leave the Skoda at home:)
Reclassification fee as non commercial drops every year and reaches zero at ten years old. 1951 Series One 80" 1600cc Deep Bronze Green
2007 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Tonga Green
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| 14th Dec 2011 4:51 pm |
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mowog
Member Since: 12 Jan 2010
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 90
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I had a read of the comments.
The yanks like to live in the past with their belief in the unreliability of Land Rovers. Discovery 4 SE Long range fuel tank Kaymar Rear Bar.
Mini Inspired by Goodwood
Mini JCW Clubman
Lotus Trooper Off Road Caravan
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mowog/
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| 15th Dec 2011 1:41 am |
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RD3
Member Since: 15 Dec 2011
Location: Central North Island
Posts: 21
 
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Test drove a jeep grand Cherokee overland 2011 for a couple of hours and limped away from the experience. They have put the park brake in as a foot pedal near the foot brake. If your taller than british standard height your left leg has to rest at a wierd angle, with no were to move it around. Total  Up, probably works okay in the LHD model.
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| 15th Dec 2011 8:57 am |
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bigcarpchaser
Member Since: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Camberley
Posts: 2270
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One word or warning with regards to Cherokee's DEPRECIATION.
It's horrendous. Welcome "Lola" 
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| 15th Dec 2011 2:12 pm |
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Mother Theresa
Member Since: 21 Nov 2011
Location: Northants
Posts: 104
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The worst car I have ever owned (and I've had a few including a Rover 620Ti so it has some competition) was a Jeep Cherokee. Always going wrong, left me starnded on several occasions, don't go there.
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| 15th Dec 2011 2:17 pm |
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