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Snow newbie and Terrain Response
Hi,
going to be venturing out in the D3 for the first time on snow today. What is the best way to drive it? Do I only switch to mud and snow if it gets a bit iffy? from reading the wiki it locks the centre and read diff so I wouldn't want this setting just driving on the snow? also I presume it works he same in hi as the wiki only mentions low ?
I presume if I do switch to mud and snow I should turn dsc off?
Do I have to stop to change TR settings or can they be done on the move?
its a 55 D3 V8 auto on GG ATs
cheers
ps i did try a search but couldn't find the info i was after, and real world experience is better after allcheers
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19th Jan 2013 7:06 am
Nightrider
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Tr setting can be done on the move so no need to stop
If roads are Icy or hard snow and chance of sliding all over the place then grass gravel and snow setting is the best with hdc off as soon as you select the settings it will switch on hdc
That is what I believe if you have loads of soft snow then use sand setting.
If in doubt then general settings will do as it is a great machine so will perform as it should do.
Hopefully someone with more experience will be along soon.
19th Jan 2013 7:21 am
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For normal driving on roads with moderate snow I use the normal tr setting. If things get a bit deep and difficult turn to snow setting. If very deep then you may need low range, and if you are stuck/struggling then may need to turn DSC off. Car is very very capable on its standard setting. Can change TR settings on move, can do hi/low on move but need to be in neutral for that.
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19th Jan 2013 7:52 am
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Don't go out if you think you need to start playing about with the modes!!
I suggest Johnny is wrong, and shouldn't go out in snow unless he is familiar with the use of Terrain Response & Dynamic Stability Control.
From the manual:-
Quote:
it may be beneficial to deactivate DSC.
Such conditions include:
• To rock the vehicle out of a hollow or out
of a soft surface.
• Starting in deep snow or on a loose
surface.
• Driving in deep sand.
• Driving on tracks with deep longitudinal
ruts.
• Driving through deep mud.
Quote:
Note: When in deep snow, if the vehicle is
struggling for forward traction or is stuck, then
switching off Dynamic Stability Control (DSC)
may be an advantage. If DSC is switched off,
then it must be switched back on as soon as
the difficulty is overcome.
Terrain Response
Quote:
Grass-Gravel-Snow
Use this special program for
surfaces where the underlying
base is fairly firm, but a coating of
other material gives a tendency to slip. The
coating can be water, slime, grass, snow or
loose gravel, shale or pebbles, or even a thin
coating of sand. This program should also be
selected in icy conditions.
Quote:
Sand
Use this special program to drive
on soft and predominantly dry,
yielding sandy ground, such as
dry beaches, dunes and sand deserts. Also
consider using this program for deep gravel.
The Sand special program uses the control
settings and software logic best suited to
driving on sand, with the driver-override option
as before.
In instances where the sand is damp or wet and
soggy, the conditions are better addressed by
the use of mud/ruts special program.
Where the sand is extremely soft and dry and
of a depth that allows the wheels to sink well
into it, there may be additional benefit in
switching off the Dynamic Stability Control.
See Deactivating DSC operation, 174.
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19th Jan 2013 8:15 am
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johnny585 wrote:
Don't go out if you think you need to start playing about with the modes!!
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19th Jan 2013 8:23 am
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The comment was made because through my work I am fedup with people who don't know how to drive in these conditons going out in the snow and causing chaos. I have to say, unfortunately, this involves disco drivers, such as 'newbies'.
19th Jan 2013 8:31 am
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To be fair mate, we were all new to this once and the OP has shown some very good judgement in asking the question on a forum that is, in part, here to advise and assist. I see your point about "newbies" going out and not knowing the first thing about the systems on the car but then there are many that do not adjust their driving style to the conditions that DON'T drive Land Rovers Rykard has asked a serious and sensible question and I think we owe it to him or her to try to answer the query. We're here to educate not humiliate, is a particularly pleasant phrase don't you think?
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This question was also asked on the FL2 site and one of the answers there was find an empty car park with snow in and try the different settings to get used to the vehicle which I find a far comment, I think the OP is very sensible in asking if he is not sure as we all have to start somewhere, also a LR experience day was suggested so you can see what the vehicle is actually capable of.
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May I suggest that all new owners should do at half-day Land Rover Experience course.
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19th Jan 2013 8:46 am
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Fair point steve.
19th Jan 2013 8:48 am
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We were all newbies at some stage. At least he has the humility to ask
Edit i am a sloooow typer...so seems abit of a repeat.....
In my experience just twist the dial to snow and thats enough. Leave the dsc on or the back end can require control ( ok if you instinctively react..bad if you dont)
And braking will be worse than other lighter cars regardless of settings.
So keep an unfeasably huge distance in front of you.
Stop before you reach junctions then trundle up to them.
Drive slower than everyone else you have no real advantage other thaN the ability to get Into bigger trouble
And if possible go somewhere flat, open, private and get a feel for it.It is better to have and not need it then need and not have it.
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19th Jan 2013 8:55 am
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Have to agree guys the LRE is a brilliant course and gives a taste of what the cars are capable of. Rykard, I think these are available from time to time in the for sale and wanted section on here. Might be worth trying to persuade your dealer to part with one. They usually have a few to give out, usually with a car purchase. Having said that, i haven't had one from my dealer in the last few purchases - let me give him a call and see if I cant persuade him. If I can get it, I pop it in the post for you. You'll have a brilliant day guaranteed and learn loads! In the meantime, don't be scared of it in the snow and remember, when it comes to throttle and brakes - Don't go mental, just be gentle !
BTW the " Find a quite car park and have a play is a BRILLIANT idea!
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19th Jan 2013 8:56 am
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Johnny - Just out of interest, what job do you do mate? Whatever it is, can't be easy at the best of times, let alone in this weather. Working with roads is always going to be challenging. My17 Volvo XC90 Inscription
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19th Jan 2013 8:57 am
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The LRE events are good fun and stress free as it is not your car.
Whilst I have some 4x4 training and experience through work (Defender & Pinz) to get the best out of Terrain Response you really need some training. To make the most of the training playing in your own car, asking for advise on here, RTFM and selected YouTube videos all help to learn a little quicker.
I don't take my D3 off-road for fun, but I have had to use its capabilities on occasion and doing an LRE event every 18 months or so (to vary the seasons) is well worth it. If you are ever short of a present idea then LRE vouchers should be on the list.
Sorry if any of the responses have been negative as that is pretty rare on this forum. Feel free to enjoy your car in the snow as it will bring a smile to your face.
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