orkneydave
Member Since: 27 Aug 2012
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Bit of an odd one here. I live in the Orkney Islands and am venturing to the mainland tomorrow for meetings etc and to get my D3 seen to (120k service and bushes replaced) at Strathearn Engineering in Perth.
However, my EPB failed yesterday (short period of squeeling from NS disk followed by grinding noise)  which has left me with no shoes on the NS (the spring clips had failed). I have pulled the fuse to prevent the EPB from trying to engage. Strathearn are going to fix this when I get there but will it be ok to park on the ferry and leave it in gear (I have a manual) or should I get it lashed to the deck and the wheels chocked? 
Any thoughts greatly appreciated! Dave Neil
2018 Outlander PHEV
2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 S (went up in flames)
1972 Series 3 109 200tdi (@alfredthe109)
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 28th Jan 2013 10:40 am |
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Gaza
Member Since: 08 Jan 2009
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Having seen this video, albeit from the Shetland Ferry, I'd ask them to chock and tie down your D3. 
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| 28th Jan 2013 10:48 am |
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orkneydave
Member Since: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Orkney Islands
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I have seen that one too although it's not from Shetland. I think it's a cruise ship in the bay of Biscay!
Probably best playing it safe though  Dave Neil
2018 Outlander PHEV
2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 S (went up in flames)
1972 Series 3 109 200tdi (@alfredthe109)
1972 MGB GT (in bits)
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| 28th Jan 2013 10:54 am |
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dangerdave
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| 28th Jan 2013 11:35 am |
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Navigator
Member Since: 17 Mar 2010
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The old Macbraynes vessel "Iona" was designed for those weather conditions. The bar was so far down below waterline it had sloping sides. It was at the point the rest of the vessel was pivoting around. Calm in the worst storm! A vaccine does not stop you catching a virus, or passing it on, or getting ill from it, really ill. It does reduce the likelyhood of you dying when really, really ill. Stay Alive - KEEP AWAY FROM PEOPLE.
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| 28th Jan 2013 12:59 pm |
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orkneydave
Member Since: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Orkney Islands
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We had the Iona here a few years ago after it was renamed the Pentalina B. It now works out of Cape Verde! Dave Neil
2018 Outlander PHEV
2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 S (went up in flames)
1972 Series 3 109 200tdi (@alfredthe109)
1972 MGB GT (in bits)
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| 28th Jan 2013 1:18 pm |
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Navigator
Member Since: 17 Mar 2010
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A nice gentle retirement after years plying The Minch. A vaccine does not stop you catching a virus, or passing it on, or getting ill from it, really ill. It does reduce the likelyhood of you dying when really, really ill. Stay Alive - KEEP AWAY FROM PEOPLE.
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| 28th Jan 2013 1:55 pm |
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zig
Member Since: 09 Sep 2005
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Will you be on the Hamnavoe from Stromness to Scrabster? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhsBfNxWILg
Without a functional EPB I would get the vehicle lashed down and the wheels chocked.
I would speak to the loading officer and and advise them of your problem and say that you want the vehicle lashed down and chocked. This may well effect where they position the vehicle on the vehicle deck.
The Shipping Forecast for sea area Fair Isle issued at 1625 UTC Mon 28 Jan is not very good (although the direction of the wind is probably in your favour).
Wind: South or southeast, becoming cyclonic 5 to 7, occasionally gale 8 at first, then southeast 6 to gale 8, perhaps severe gale 9 later.
Sea State: High or very high, becoming very rough.
see http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/marine...l~FairIsle
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| 28th Jan 2013 9:22 pm |
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Woolmeister
Member Since: 26 Mar 2007
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Dave,
Did you do all 120k miles on the Orkney Islands?
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| 28th Jan 2013 9:26 pm |
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kp
Member Since: 27 May 2011
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16hours from Holyhead to dun laoghaire in ridiculous weather saw a lorry come on the deck after all the vehicles with extra lashings before we crossed. Everything below deck was strapped down although IIRC 2 tractor units made contact as their cabs had so much movement and parked so close the paint was scraped from one onto another. Very few passengers only saw their dinner once for that crossing and it was by far the worst in 25years of crossing the irish sea i have seen it. Even my folks (mums dad was ex merchant navy so often out to sea with him) said the captain should have called it off and not been so stupid as no-one else waited to cross 
Pity the old seacats have all but vanished now they used to smooth it out with speed! FFRR Owner, very nearly became a D3 owner 
Test piloted a new D4 XS SDV6.. Gone and being forgotten i hope!!
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| 29th Jan 2013 1:30 pm |
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TwelveSticks
Member Since: 16 Jan 2010
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I often find that they've chocked my LR anyway (D3 or D2) when I return to the lower deck after the voyage. Not sure if they do it to other makes of 4x4 or if they've just had some bad experiences over the years! 2001 D2 GS (I must be mad!)
2005 D3 S 10-12 (gone and missed)
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| 29th Jan 2013 1:54 pm |
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chrisb
Member Since: 26 Jul 2007
Location: Hope Valley
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I'd have gone with low ratio 1st gear. No way its going to move then!
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| 29th Jan 2013 3:25 pm |
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MarkOne
Member Since: 23 Jul 2011
Location: County Antrim
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I wouldn't be saying to any loading officer about your problem, there's every chance they wouldn't let you on as you have no primary brake.
Ferry company's are forever refusing to ship dropped trailers due to an air leak, get on low range 1st gear and throw a choke under the back wheel.
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| 29th Jan 2013 4:44 pm |
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A.J.M
Member Since: 31 Oct 2009
Location: Carluke
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There are 2 chocks in the toolkit, stick them on a wheel and remember to remove them when driving away. In loving memory of FA54WSK.
Rest well old friend, your work is done.
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| 29th Jan 2013 4:54 pm |
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Canburne
Member Since: 15 Jan 2013
Location: Devon
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wired4smoke wrote:I wouldn't be saying to any loading officer about your problem, there's every chance they wouldn't let you on as you have no primary brake.
That is completely irresponsible - it is and should always remain the loading officers' decision as the consequences could endanger the lives of all those onboard. 3 tons of metal repeatedly crashing against the ships loading doors could cause significant damage and a ferry with its loading door open would go straight down (remember the Herald of Free Enterprise). They have the equipment and the knowledge of how to safely lash the car down and dependent on the weather conditions it should be the ship's officers decision to make on the spot and no-one else's. My opinion is based on 8 years as a Deck Officer in the Merchant Navy followed by 20 years in shipping industry shore based.
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| 29th Jan 2013 5:13 pm |
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