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Location: plymouth
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landrover advise detachable hook only for occasional use...whatever that means...still rated at 3500.
15th Jun 2018 9:41 pm
Erea
Member Since: 19 Mar 2012
Location: Munster
Posts: 1509
Mogwyth wrote:
Ours is full sized TA and even with it being up-plated to maximum payload its still only 1800kg, on the other hand our livestock trailer is 3.5T fully laden, sometimes a bit more
Don’t think I’ve gone much over 3500kgs with livestock in our Williams trailer. But I once put a fair few pig slats into it behind our old 300 Tdi Disco. Noticed the Tyres a bit flat so when I got home weighed one of the slats 4800kgs of slats + 10’X5’9” Williams cattle trailer
15th Jun 2018 9:41 pm
gstuart
Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
Posts: 14176
Mogwyth wrote:
Important things for stability dont overload your caravan (plate should tell you that), correct noseweight, caravan tyres pressures, appropriate speed particularly on bends and down hill, big vehicles and if windy sudden gusts particularly through breaks in roadside cover.
many thks
always had caravan holidays as a kid, dad always put a flat bar between the car and caravan
is it also true if a caravan starts to snake u shouldnt touch the brakes but just take ur foot of the accelerator
reading ref the different tow balls now, where they have some form of braking as they twist , if i’m explaining that correctly
15th Jun 2018 9:47 pm
gstuart
Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
Posts: 14176
galwaygreen wrote:
landrover advise detachable hook only for occasional use...whatever that means...still rated at 3500.
from what i’ve read indeed seen where many of u have fitted the permanent ones, also seeing the temp ones can go walkies so easily
wasn’t there also mention of a recal concerning the temp tow balls becoming loose in the socket , would worry me to much for that what IF scenario
15th Jun 2018 9:49 pm
comedyharvey
Member Since: 03 Jul 2010
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 1727
Yes, there was a recall. There was a problem with wear in the socket with the detachable tow ball becoming loose and, on a few occasions, coming out.
On the recall, mine had the rear crossmember cut out and a new one welded in, and then a fixed tow bar fitted. All at LRs expense. Worth saying that, although I towed heavy trailers, I only did so on average once a month. I wouldn’t call that heavy use.
I’ve towed heavy horse boxes and a flat trailer with 3 tonnes on it with both the removable towball and now the fixed and I have to say the fixed one gives a lot more confidence. I wouldn’t go back to a removeable towbar unless I was only planning to tow light trailers.
.Arthur.
Comedy was a horse, Harvey a dog, both sadly gone. Thought I was choosing a password!
Currently;
Discovery 3 HSE 2009
101" Fwd. Control 1976
Nuffield 10/90 Tractor (10/60 with 6 cylinder conversion) 1964
Previously;
Series III Lightweight. 1976.
15th Jun 2018 10:02 pm
gstuart
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Location: kent
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16th Jun 2018 11:24 am
mse
Member Since: 27 Jun 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 2707
Detachable has a lower nose weight than fixed but can to 3.5t
Occasional use is simple two fold - don’t leave it in all day everyday, it’s not a permanent fixing and if your using it Day in day out then consider a fixed.
Our ifor can get heavy, what they are built for.
I thought the disco can tow 4.2 with coupled brakes or was that the D1 and 2?Mike
Be careful though, it’s only the genuine LR fixed bar has the higher noseweight, the likes of Witter is 150kg same as the detachable.
23rd Jun 2018 8:19 am
mse
Member Since: 27 Jun 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 2707
The 250kg nose weight of the genuine was the appealing for meMike
23rd Jun 2018 7:21 pm
James1974
Member Since: 23 Nov 2017
Location: Stevenage
Posts: 990
Fixed towbar all day long
I sold my removable one on eBay for 175 and brought a brand new fixed one for 195
And I have a 8 meter twin axel bailey Pegasus 624 which is huge and that is only 1600kg and nose weight of 105kg so no where
Near the disco limit it would have to be one hell of a caravan to get anywhere near the disco limit or even 85% of it and newer caravans like
Mine has alko stability control works the same way as a car one wheel faster than the other breaks the caravan to correct it and the disco senses you are towing and uses a different engine map as wellDisco 3 gone but not forGotten
Welcome disco 4
Flappy paddles working from gap
Heated steering wheel done
Bluetooth iPod connection done
Xeon lights (facelift) done
Afs retrofit done
Logic 7 retrofit done
Armrest fridge
Facelift rear lights
Retrofit High beam assist done
Genuine 22” Range Rover sport alloys
Retrofit acc (gave up not possible)
retrofit tpms done
Retrofit Range Rover lcd digital dash. Done
Retrofit blind spot assist done
27th Jun 2018 4:45 pm
GEOBLRDISCO4
Member Since: 10 Jan 2018
Location: SCOTLAND
Posts: 9
I just bought my 2016 disco in January, paid LR to fit a detachable before i picked it up. They did it for £650, part of my negotiating when buying, guessing from the thread given it was fitted this year it should be reliable? My bailey is 1750kg for the holiday to france. Then about 1700 for uk trips. I have wife n two boys in the disco. Do people think its risky towing the van 4-5 times a year with the detachable? I'm planning on towing for the next 4-6 years with this car. Would people recommend changing to fixed?
Thanks
George
23rd Jul 2018 9:08 pm
James1974
Member Since: 23 Nov 2017
Location: Stevenage
Posts: 990
A detachable is not for towing a caravan especially long distances there for a Accasional towing even the Land Rover garage them selves told me that when I told them I was gonna pull a twin axel Pegasus 624 they said no no no to the removable one and fitted a fixed one and changed it to 13 pin electrics to mine for £99 as a good will gesture for buying the car from themDisco 3 gone but not forGotten
Welcome disco 4
Flappy paddles working from gap
Heated steering wheel done
Bluetooth iPod connection done
Xeon lights (facelift) done
Afs retrofit done
Logic 7 retrofit done
Armrest fridge
Facelift rear lights
Retrofit High beam assist done
Genuine 22” Range Rover sport alloys
Retrofit acc (gave up not possible)
retrofit tpms done
Retrofit Range Rover lcd digital dash. Done
Retrofit blind spot assist done
23rd Jul 2018 9:14 pm
BrettKaz
Member Since: 11 Nov 2013
Location: Canberra
Posts: 209
Pretty sure you have GVM calc over in UK similar to ours. You need to add your ball weight to the cars payload. Something you might need to consider for the Freelander
Here is my calc for the D3
Gross Vehicle Mass: 3180kg less Kerb mass: 2718kg (includes 10kgs fuel) giving payload max 462kgs, less ball weight 260kgs, 70kgs fuel, 150kgs 2 persons and you are already thinking of dieting
23rd Jul 2018 9:44 pm
GEOBLRDISCO4
Member Since: 10 Jan 2018
Location: SCOTLAND
Posts: 9
Thanks James, that’s a bit of a concern given I’ve done about 1000 miles with my van this year and about to do another 1000 or so starting Thursday, I specifically told LR I was buying the car for caravan towing, they never mentioned anything, the salesman said he would do me a ½ price deal on runners and towbar. I was pleased with the prices and we made the deal.
23rd Jul 2018 10:20 pm
galwaygreen
Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: plymouth
Posts: 6525
have a search for the safety plate that helps to keep it in socket
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