Member Since: 16 Aug 2012
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 83
Turbo Trauma - HELP!!
So recently I posted about my 2011 D4 Turbos failing on me and after extensive dianostics it was confirmed that this was the case.
Had a nightmare trying to get the local indy to sort (They were booked up for weeks) so ended up taking it to a turbo specialist who fitted 2 recon turbos for £2800 which had 2 years parts and labour warranty.
Drive the car home 65 miles and shortly after the car pinged into restricted performance with error code P1247-00 Turbocharger boost pressure low.
Limped it back to the garage and they fitted two new turbos and drove it home, at this point the steering was slightly heavy to the right (Not sure if thats connected!)
Next day, same fault code - returned it to the garage and they have said the following:
When your Land Rover Discovery came to us on Tuesday we can confirm that the original issue you were facing was due to a faulty part from our supplier, so we swapped out the turbocharger for another reconditioned one under the warranty.
After receiving your vehicle again yesterday we have been taking it on some longer drives after you originally reported that the issue appeared to be from longer journeys. However you also mentioned in an email earlier today that the issue could be found after a short 5 mile journey, making the symptoms intermittent.
We had taken the vehicle on short, local journeys and then taking it further until we had reached Junction 4. Please see the picture attached, as well as the picture showing the vehicle's current mileage. When we take our vehicles on a test drive we plug it into the diagnostic machine that we use. This piece of machinery measures and maps out 2 graphs regarding turbo performance, one is for specified boost (what the turbocharger should be boosting) and the other is actual boost (what the turbocharger is actually boosting).
When our mechanics took the car out for it's test drive both of these graphs lined up, meaning that according to our diagnostic machine the turbo was performing as it should.
Due to the lack of one specific factor for the limp mode you have experienced for us to test against (e.g the rate of acceleration, length of journey etc) we cannot give an exact cause of failure, however our mechanics suspect it could be one of the following causes:
- EGR system faulty
- Turbo system control, the bypass valve or shut off valve
- Selenoid control
Im kinda at a loss now what to do.......... Trying to get it booked in to a local garage (Waiting on the indy to call me back) any thoughts - does this all sound reasonable and if it is any of the above are they big/ expensive jobs??
11th May 2023 2:22 pm
Lazydave
Member Since: 07 Jul 2019
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 87
Edit:I've just had this code, see below.2010 HSE
Full service genuine parts.
Front and rear pads.
Turbo oil drain pipe mod.
LED interior lights upgrade.
Both rear door actuators.
Tailgate handle/ switch.
Facelift grille and rear lights.
Fitted cross bars.
New rear discs and pads.
New RH inlet manifold.
New air con condensor.
New battery.
New EGR pipe.
New front discs and pads.
New propshaft.
Last edited by Lazydave on 12th May 2023 5:40 pm. Edited 1 time in total
11th May 2023 9:02 pm
Lazydave
Member Since: 07 Jul 2019
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 87
Hold that thought. The garage have rang to say it's the small black clip on pipe behind the throttle body. Massive thanks to @ Oval autos for firstly fitting us in and being honest.
A different garage had diagnosed the inlet manifold ( which was changed 10k miles ago).2010 HSE
Full service genuine parts.
Front and rear pads.
Turbo oil drain pipe mod.
LED interior lights upgrade.
Both rear door actuators.
Tailgate handle/ switch.
Facelift grille and rear lights.
Fitted cross bars.
New rear discs and pads.
New RH inlet manifold.
New air con condensor.
New battery.
New EGR pipe.
New front discs and pads.
New propshaft.
12th May 2023 2:06 pm
Treloar087
Member Since: 09 Dec 2021
Location: Essex
Posts: 6
Re: Turbo Trauma - HELP!!
sarahhowen01 wrote:
So recently I posted about my 2011 D4 Turbos failing on me and after extensive dianostics it was confirmed that this was the case.
Had a nightmare trying to get the local indy to sort (They were booked up for weeks) so ended up taking it to a turbo specialist who fitted 2 recon turbos for £2800 which had 2 years parts and labour warranty.
Drive the car home 65 miles and shortly after the car pinged into restricted performance with error code P1247-00 Turbocharger boost pressure low.
Limped it back to the garage and they fitted two new turbos and drove it home, at this point the steering was slightly heavy to the right (Not sure if thats connected!)
Next day, same fault code - returned it to the garage and they have said the following:
When your Land Rover Discovery came to us on Tuesday we can confirm that the original issue you were facing was due to a faulty part from our supplier, so we swapped out the turbocharger for another reconditioned one under the warranty.
After receiving your vehicle again yesterday we have been taking it on some longer drives after you originally reported that the issue appeared to be from longer journeys. However you also mentioned in an email earlier today that the issue could be found after a short 5 mile journey, making the symptoms intermittent.
We had taken the vehicle on short, local journeys and then taking it further until we had reached Junction 4. Please see the picture attached, as well as the picture showing the vehicle's current mileage. When we take our vehicles on a test drive we plug it into the diagnostic machine that we use. This piece of machinery measures and maps out 2 graphs regarding turbo performance, one is for specified boost (what the turbocharger should be boosting) and the other is actual boost (what the turbocharger is actually boosting).
When our mechanics took the car out for it's test drive both of these graphs lined up, meaning that according to our diagnostic machine the turbo was performing as it should.
Due to the lack of one specific factor for the limp mode you have experienced for us to test against (e.g the rate of acceleration, length of journey etc) we cannot give an exact cause of failure, however our mechanics suspect it could be one of the following causes:
- EGR system faulty
- Turbo system control, the bypass valve or shut off valve
- Selenoid control
Im kinda at a loss now what to do.......... Trying to get it booked in to a local garage (Waiting on the indy to call me back) any thoughts - does this all sound reasonable and if it is any of the above are they big/ expensive jobs??
Hi Sarah, what was the outcome of this as sounds almost identical to what I have going on currently.Orkney Grey D4 SDV6 HSE <still>
Sucker for punishment
19th Oct 2024 10:21 pm
darrind
Member Since: 04 Jul 2008
Location: In A World of My Own!
Posts: 2889
I kept getting this error and it was caused by a split in the exhaust to EGR pipe
I keep getting random P1247-00 (27) Turbocharger boost pressure low errors on my car. Usually shortly after starting a cooling engine. It has always cleared with the IID and performs fine for the rest of the journey.
Do you have and further detail as to where that pipe is located and how easy to access? It would be good to inspect mine, although it has thrown this error for 3-4 years and not gotten worse, so this might not be the cause.
Regards,
Steve
22nd Oct 2024 7:57 am
darrind
Member Since: 04 Jul 2008
Location: In A World of My Own!
Posts: 2889
Hi Steve
these are the exhaust gas supply into the EGR - there are one on each EGR and are very thin stainless steel as they need a bit of flex in day to day use.
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I believe each side is a different part number
Only way to change it is to remove the complete EGR and cooler they are about £60 just for the pipe - I changed the EGR at the same time as I didn't want to do it twice, however if you buy the complete egr and cooler (OEM or genuine) it comes as a part of the unit. If you are swapping the pipe on its own the labour time is just the same if you change the EGR or not.
Incidentally I noticed on eBay that there is a guy selling pairs of refurbished EGR assemblies for £260 - I'd be interested to know if anyone has used him as I still need to do the drivers side at some point as im sure it will go next...Must stop buying shiny toys....
22nd Oct 2024 8:47 am
darrind
Member Since: 04 Jul 2008
Location: In A World of My Own!
Posts: 2889
Click image to enlarge
Heres the pipe highlighted on each side for clarity
Mine was split under the braidingMust stop buying shiny toys....
Thanks Darrind, very useful information. I will try to see what mine are like when I get it back from service. Typically it never throw the fault when with the garage, so they have struggled to diagnose the cause.
Regards,
Steve
23rd Oct 2024 7:42 am
darrind
Member Since: 04 Jul 2008
Location: In A World of My Own!
Posts: 2889
good luck!Must stop buying shiny toys....
23rd Oct 2024 3:08 pm
Simmo73
Member Since: 23 Jan 2019
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 21
Mine has the same issue with same error code. Seems completely random, can clear the code or leave it over night and it won’t go into restricted performance for ages. I’ve changed the CSV and the turbo control solenoid. Cleaned the MAP and MAF sensors. Checked for any obvious signs of leaks with no joy. It’s been into the garage a couple of times but as it’s so random they can’t find it either 😩. Really frustrating
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