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tommyb159
 


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How to unlatch door when the actuator has broken

Hi. Hopefully someone can help.

The actuator on my drivers door started having problems with not unlocking the door so I ordered the new part but now the actuator has completely stopped working and I can’t open the door at all. The buttons inside don’t work and neither the key fob.

Does anyone have a guide on how to unlock the door when the actuator isn’t working?

Thanks
  
Post #216856518th Aug 2020 9:33 pm
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AACSC
 


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England 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Indus SilverDiscovery 3

Hi TOM

I had the problem of the drives door not opening some years ago and whilst awkward it is possible to replace the actuator without causing damage.

I put a write up on the forum "Door lock actuator - with guide" and you will find my guide on page 6?.

The biggest problem is the removal of the door card, the door speaker is somewhat in the way.

It can be done , go for it

AACSC
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aja4x4
 


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I would try disconnecting the battery and then reconnecting it, sometimes its enough just to get it to open one more time.
  
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darrind
 


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I find if you pull the interior unlock and handle whilst unlocking from the dash or remote a few times it often releases.

Last time I had to do this SWMBO later pushed the door closed whilst the inside was all off as she wanted something out of her car door pocket, parked next to my D3 Banging Head Banging Head Banging Head
 Must stop buying shiny toys....  
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gstuart
 


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Plus 1 ref what @darrind suggested

Also worked for me by using a combination of the handles/ dashboard switches , alas if it’s super locked have to use the key fob

As a side note if the buttons are continuously pressed they will become disabled , have to wait 10-20 seconds before trying again

Fingers crossed it works for u Thumbs Up
   
Post #216860019th Aug 2020 9:38 am
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tommyb159
 


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Thanks guys.

I’m just waiting for the new replacement to arrive. Don’t want to waste my 1 opportunity to open the door but I’ll let you know what works. As a last resort I’ll follow the guide and have to take the seat out.
  
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gstuart
 


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Fingers crossed it works for when u need to u lock that one time

If u can’t hear anything with the actuators check ur fuses


https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/replacing-d...o+actuator

https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/replacing-f...o+actuator

https://www.disco3.co.uk/wiki/Rear_Door_Latch_Replacement

I used some glass suckers instead of tape, found the round ones better instead of the double handled ones because of the angle of the glass

Motor strip down

https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/door-lock-m...o+actuator

Plus if req u can buy just the glass clips , just need a slight trim

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-Window-Panes...100623.m-1

Hope that helps




   
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gstuart
 


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Apologises , forgot the Fuse box info

https://fuse-box.info/land-rover/land-rove...and-relays
   
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darrind
 


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Was stunned to see how low prices of the Chinese door actuators are now - just seen one on ebay for £6 delivered. Bought it to see how bad or good it is.
 Must stop buying shiny toys....  
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tommyb159
 


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Tried all the tricks to get the door to open one last time but unfortunately it wasn’t to be. So out came the front seat, which was a job in its self with how heavy the thing is!! Luckily when I got the door card off I by chance pulled the handle wire and it unlatched the door. So I’m thinking it was the mechanism the attached to the wire and not the motor. But it’s been replaced and working now.

Thanks again for all your help. Very much appreciated 👍🏻
  
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gstuart
 


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Hiya

Really relieved to see u finally managed to get the door open , indeed I also couldn’t believe how heavy the seats were

As a side note , Did find those cables a sod to reattach to the door cards , used cable ties to ensure they never came off again

Great to hear u got it sorted out Thumbs Up
   
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tommyb159
 


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So having got it sorted since then I’ve been through another actuator not working. The part was replaced for being faulty by the supplier so didn’t cost any extra. but having had it failing for for a second time I’m struggling to accept it’s the actuator that’s the problem.

Is there another issue that could be wrong? When I fitted the new actuator it worked for about a week then both the inside and outside handles don’t work again. Is there another part that causes this issue?

Thanks
  
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darrind
 


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Any damage to the door loom?
 Must stop buying shiny toys....  
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tommyb159
 


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I don’t think so. How would I diagnose that?

The actuator is still making a noise when I use the key fob so must be getting power. I didn’t know if there could be an issue with the cables that attach to the actuator. But they looked ok and it solved the issue as soon as I fitted the actuator. Is it possible to have a loose cable ?
  
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Trailered Movements
 


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I recently changed the actuator on my D4, for a pattern part from fleabay, and also an original bowden cable.

The lever that has the slot for the outer door handle bowden cable appeared to be at a slightly different angle to the original, resulting in the first 5mm of cable travel just moving in the slot.

I used a small cable tie to both hold the cable in place, and take up that void.

Now it works perfectly.

Dave
 2011 Discovery 4 Commercial SDV6 (Gone)
2010 RRS TDV8 (Gone)
1980 OBLIC 4.0ltr Range Rover (went a long time ago) 


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