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RRSTDV8 wrote:
I'm increasingly becoming annoyed by vegetarians/vegans on TV talking about "non-dairy butter", "plant-based yoghurt" and the latest ones - vegan spare ribs and vegan brisket.
Butter is processed cream. It is not vegan.
Yoghurt is processed milk. It is not vegan.
If either of the above is described as "vegan" then it isn't butter or yoghurt.
And as for "vegan brisket"? What the f*ck is that supposed to mean. A vegan piece of meat? Of course it's not brisket.
Why can't vegetarians / vegans come up with their own names for things instead of using non-vegan names but with "vegan" stuck in front?
Right, that's that off my chest...
As a vegan I would completely agree, if does seem pointless to do this, but as has been said, I guess for those moving to a vegi/vegan diet it provides them with something that looks familiar. Although to be honest, most of it isn’t that great and doesn’t taste the same.
The Devils Spawn was mentioned, that applies to vegan cheese!! Andy
15th Mar 2020 11:38 am
RRSTDV8
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The programme I saw they were saying how similar in taste and texture it was to real brisket. Then have real brisket if you want the taste, texture and look of the real thing! Grrrr.
I'm waiting for someone to do a spoof and try to make steak look like vegetables... Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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15th Mar 2020 12:23 pm
Fitzy73
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Must admit I haven’t tried that, but most things are nothing like the original meat items.
Having said, becoming vegan has been easier than I thought.Andy
15th Mar 2020 12:27 pm
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RRSTDV8 wrote:
The programme I saw they were saying how similar in taste and texture it was to real brisket. Then have real brisket if you want the taste, texture and look of the real thing! Grrrr.
I'm waiting for someone to do a spoof and try to make steak look like vegetables...
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15th Mar 2020 1:17 pm
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RRSTDV8 wrote:
The programme I saw they were saying how similar in taste and texture it was to real brisket. Then have real brisket if you want the taste, texture and look of the real thing! Grrrr.
I'm waiting for someone to do a spoof and try to make steak look like vegetables...
So ... If it's Turkey based, should it not be a Tar(r)ot ?
It was always on the cards someone would come up with that.
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24th Mar 2020 8:17 pm
astonbuilder
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Changing energy tariff.....
Our dual-fuel tariff has ended and I was looking for alternatives as expecting to change to an i-Pace Jag' but that will be delayed somewhat now with all that is going on in the world.......
So given we're now on standard variable tariff I go onto U-switch to compare tariffs and put postcode in and select house number from drop-down list......... but our house number isn't there, every other one seems to be. Put in next door as similar property and continue on. Got all the Kwh hour usage and other answers needed and do a search. Top 3 companies are names I've never heard of so I carry on and to within a few quid of all the others my current provider is there with an annual saving of £322 over my last year usage so I progress to select the tariff. Read all the small print and happy to go ahead.
But, I can't because it won't let me select my house number Ring up U-switch and despite knowing exactly what tariff I want I get the 'computer says no' syndrome and have to answer all the questions again. Comes up with my chosen tariff at the end with all the same details and am told I can do the switch there and then "as long as you accept a smart meter", er, that'll be a 'no' then. As we are talking I am checking all the small print and nowhere does it mention a smart meter in the form filling online
They are prepared to help me find a tariff but will have to go through it all 'manually' as my house number not on system, etc. Lots of blurb about unable to add me without meter numbers, which I have, and then that changes to "oh, we can't do it". Point out that without that I can't use their website so they can't get a revenue???? Puts me through to 'customer services' where I get............"sorry we are unable to take calls, try again in the week" type thing.....aaargh.
Will ring my current provider to see if they can do a deal but without my house number on the list for U-switch I can't do easy comparison deals
You could always try contacting the other supplier direct and ask if they will better the U switch quote. Might even save a bit as they won't have to pay U Switch a commission.
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Used 'Confused' comparative site as that had my house number recognised, gave exactly same supplier deals as U-Switch
I've gone for British Gas as cheapest big name brand I'm comfortable with and only about £6-7 more a year than the independents I've never heard of and a bit unsure of going with.
My current supplier, EDF, was a few pounds cheaper but you have to have a smart meter and I'm holding off from one of those for now if possible.
30th Mar 2020 10:12 am
Paul J.
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What’s the objection to smart meters?
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30th Mar 2020 1:05 pm
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Smart meters are a pain if you live in anything other than a timber frame house (IMHO). We had one installed by our previous supplier for electric, but the one for the gas can't communicate with it (the electric one does all the communcation with the supplier) as the walls are too thick and it's too far away.
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30th Mar 2020 1:12 pm
icestationzebra
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Paul J. wrote:
What’s the objection to smart meters?
What is the point of them in the first place? Can somebody explain how having a smart meter can reduce your energy consumption? The meter is usually stuck away in a cupboard or box so who is going to look at a meter and say turn it off it is using too much power?
Who watches a meter going round anyway?
As above they do not seem to be easily transferable across suppliers either.
The main purpose is so the supplier can disconnect you remotely if you don't pay your bills.
All the early ones have the same fixed password and in theory a determined hacker could shut them all off. However, as you'd then have a lot of victims but no way of contacting them to extort money, it's an unlikely scenario..
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30th Mar 2020 1:31 pm
Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
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icestationzebra wrote:
Paul J. wrote:
What’s the objection to smart meters?
What is the point of them in the first place? Can somebody explain how having a smart meter can reduce your energy consumption? The meter is usually stuck away in a cupboard or box so who is going to look at a meter and say turn it off it is using too much power?
Who watches a meter going round anyway?
As above they do not seem to be easily transferable across suppliers either.
Pointless waste of money.
The smart meter attaches to your existing meter and communicates with a screen that you put in your kitchen/lounge or wherever it is easy to see. You can see how consumption goes up when different appliances are being used and modify your useage. You can buy this part for about £30 rather than have your supplier install it and have control over you. My son did this in rented accommodation when his bills were higher than expected and it worked a treat.DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
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Ring up U-switch and despite knowing exactly what tariff I want I get the 'computer says no' syndrome and have to answer all the questions again. Comes up with my chosen tariff at the end with all the same details and am told I can do the switch there and then "as long as you accept a smart meter", er, that'll be a 'no' then. As we are talking I am checking all the small print and nowhere does it mention a smart meter in the form filling online 
