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Reasonable hours / cost for body off job?
What would you say is a reasonable time or price for body off a D3 /D4 / RRS? As a customer or garage.
The achievements of some determined and resourceful owners show that most awkward units can be replaced without body removal, even turbo or COP.
Conversely, in a workshop specifically geared to body off work, operating at semi-retirement pace, I would take a body off for replacement of gearbox, upper rear suspension arms, turbo etc.
On older models and ones with high mileage there is often a combination of jobs, which make this approach justified. Also, the overall cost may be significantly reduced, as compared with several separate jobs in a garage.Chris
2nd Aug 2021 10:20 pm
PROFSR G
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5 hours off maybe a bit less if rust hasn't bit it, longer if it has. yµ (idµ - eAµ) ψ=mψ
2nd Aug 2021 10:30 pm
Motolab
Member Since: 18 Oct 2019
Location: Sleen
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I can confirm what Profsr G says..
Did mine in about 4 1/2 H, no rust.
Although i did research beforehand to do an engine replacement with body on, it is for all the reasons motorworks mentions, a no brainer to do jobs mentioned, with body off….
You need access two post lift though…. And…. You need it for a few days… in the end….Best regards
Harold
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2nd Aug 2021 10:56 pm
Ade_S
Member Since: 19 Jul 2018
Location: Warwickshire
Posts: 90
Hi all. Sorry to resurrect an old thread...
The times suggested above; are they just for the removal or do they also include refitting? I'm told my crossover pipe is likely split (smell of exhaust fumes and the garage says the outer is swollen). This is an independent LR specialist and they're suggesting it would be approx £1800 just to remove and refit the body. Plus the cost of the pipe, of course!
I'm trying not to cry into my phone...
Cheers,
AdeMY2012 D4 HSE in Siberian Silver, 1967 MGB
There's a guy in one of the Facebook groups doing body-off in 45 minutes ! Somewhere East Manchester/Pennines area I think.
3rd Nov 2022 3:40 pm
disco chris
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Can't possibly be that much Ade, otherwise people would be shelling out nearly £2k every time they got timing belts done and other bits and pieces... AFAIK it's more like £500-800 for that job.
Sounds to me like they don't want the work, are trying to rip you off, or don't understand the work required (unlikely if they're a specialist!).
Try and get a quote from someone else?
3rd Nov 2022 4:16 pm
nigethecat
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Hardware wrote:
There's a guy in one of the Facebook groups doing body-off in 45 minutes ! Somewhere East Manchester/Pennines area I think.
He wasn't based in Liverpool was he ? "Body off and parts stripped in just over an hour! we don't even need your keys, wheels removed while you wait (at traffic lights) I want to see the sweets before I get into your windowless van... I'm not stupid!
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3rd Nov 2022 4:30 pm
defector
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Although I'm sure someone will complain.
3rd Nov 2022 4:49 pm
Motolab
Member Since: 18 Oct 2019
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disco chris wrote:
people would be shelling out nearly £2k every time they got timing belts done and other bits and pieces...
you don't need to get a body off for timing belts...
body off can be rather "quick"(half a day), but it needs to get on again (slower) and the initial work done..
expect at least 1,5 days work at least.. that is if there are no setbacks or what so ever...
do not know the hour rate in the UK but you can do the math your selfBest regards
Harold
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Ps. I edit my texts quite often, english is not my native language, so I will edit My “typo’s” etc.
3rd Nov 2022 4:57 pm
darrind
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Hardware wrote:
There's a guy in one of the Facebook groups doing body-off in 45 minutes ! Somewhere East Manchester/Pennines area I think.
Wasnt he the guy from the film Snatch, Mr Pulford, who owns pigs...
Member Since: 14 Nov 2019
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If a garage is quoting £1800 for body off and refit, and the normal labour time required is 12 hours, their hourly rate is about £150. If that includes VAT then £125/hour plus tax.
If their hourly rate is £72, labour time would be 25 hours.
Some jobs have a high labour element, in comparison to cost of parts. A 2.7L crossover pipe is currently £610 inc. VAT from Advanced Factors.
I could supply and fit a used 3.0L XF engine to a Disco 4, with labour less than above.Chris
3rd Nov 2022 7:33 pm
Mastertech
Member Since: 13 Apr 2014
Location: North East
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In my opinion, and with the experience of having done the job more times that I can remember, I would say 5 hours is plenty of time to do a body of AND back on.
I do wonder though why they want the body off for a crossover pipe replacement.
3rd Nov 2022 8:10 pm
Ade_S
Member Since: 19 Jul 2018
Location: Warwickshire
Posts: 90
Thanks all. I'm trying to get a couple of other quotes for comparison. The garage is one I've used for years so I trust them; I just suspect their prices may have risen a lot recently. They're saying it will likely take a couple of days to remove and refit the body, which comes to over £1400 plus VAT. Then the cost of the pipe on top, of course.
The belts were done about 12K miles ago, so probably not worth doing again but it's it worth replacing the EGR valve(s?) while the body is off? How frequently do they fail?
They've said turbos are also easy to replace but I'm not doing that at over £1K each!MY2012 D4 HSE in Siberian Silver, 1967 MGB
4th Nov 2022 10:07 pm
Motolab
Member Since: 18 Oct 2019
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EGR valves will also depend on the mileage of your mount.. as are the turbo’s..
Not necessary BUT a new HPFP belt, is soooooooo much easyer when the body is off and not expensive…Best regards
Harold
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Ps. I edit my texts quite often, english is not my native language, so I will edit My “typo’s” etc.
I do wonder though why they want the body off for a crossover pipe replacement.
I thought it was do-able with body on until one of the bolts seizes/snaps then you need body off to get access to sort that. Am I wrong?.
Dean
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