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Hi all I’m after any help you can give please. I have to replace the brake shoes on my d3 derek but having stripped old ones off easily enough. I just cannot get the big spring at the bottom on drivers side to engage is there something I’m doing wrong or just a wimp who has no strength?
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13th Jun 2021 7:05 pm
ronnie12342003
Member Since: 20 Jun 2016
Location: london
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the adjuster bar is not located fully with the shoe the shoe is not seated on the lower seat look at the other shoe its sitting properly
13th Jun 2021 7:09 pm
PROFSR G
Member Since: 06 Mar 2017
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Just lift the bottom of the shoes off their saddles so that they are closer together!!
Fit the spring and place one shoe back in its saddle, and then lever the other one against the tension with a small pry bar into it's saddle! yµ (idµ - eAµ) ψ=mψ
13th Jun 2021 7:15 pm
aja4x4
Member Since: 14 Apr 2019
Location: Westbury
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Its a lot easier if you put the epb into mounting position using gap it goves you extra play in the hand brake cableAndrew
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13th Jun 2021 7:58 pm
Patman
Member Since: 16 Aug 2019
Location: Cornwall
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Thanks guys I’ve spent most of day trying sort it
13th Jun 2021 8:35 pm
PROFSR G
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If you're having difficulty or in any doubt have a look in the Wiki for Bodseys brake bible.
It's important everything is put together correctly!yµ (idµ - eAµ) ψ=mψ
13th Jun 2021 8:48 pm
Patman
Member Since: 16 Aug 2019
Location: Cornwall
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ronnie12342003 wrote:
the adjuster bar is not located fully with the shoe the shoe is not seated on the lower seat look at the other shoe its sitting properly
You say bar not seated yet I cannot make it go deeper into adjuster. I believe it’s across the where one is correct and other not the issue lies.
13th Jun 2021 8:54 pm
aja4x4
Member Since: 14 Apr 2019
Location: Westbury
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This part is not in, right the bar needs to move towards you.
I also think that your epb is pulling the brake cables too much forcing the shoes outwards, you wont get the drum back on even if you can get the spring back on.
You need soneone with diagnostics nearby who can put your epb into mounting modeAndrew
D3 2.7tdv6 2005
D4 3.0 SDV6 Commercial died and gone to LR heaven
D5 3.0 SDV6 HSE
13th Jun 2021 9:03 pm
Patman
Member Since: 16 Aug 2019
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 314
Thanks aja. I have a foxwell obd and it does have mount setting I will use it and also move bar. It should make a difference fingers crossed.
I have used bodsys brake bible and it is very good but if you read it the texts omits replacing the spring lol
14th Jun 2021 5:09 pm
ronnie12342003
Member Since: 20 Jun 2016
Location: london
Posts: 55
Make sure the wedge adjuster’s are fully back as far as they will go, if not they will hold the shoe off.
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14th Jun 2021 7:13 pm
Patman
Member Since: 16 Aug 2019
Location: Cornwall
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Wedge adjusters what are they?
15th Jun 2021 2:27 pm
Patman
Member Since: 16 Aug 2019
Location: Cornwall
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By towards me do you mean sticks out more from the shoe or down to next slot?
aja4x4 wrote:
This part is not in, right the bar needs to move towards you.
I also think that your epb is pulling the brake cables too much forcing the shoes outwards, you wont get the drum back on even if you can get the spring back on.
You need soneone with diagnostics nearby who can put your epb into mounting mode
15th Jun 2021 2:28 pm
aja4x4
Member Since: 14 Apr 2019
Location: Westbury
Posts: 2459
Yes the shoe will drop down into a slotAndrew
D3 2.7tdv6 2005
D4 3.0 SDV6 Commercial died and gone to LR heaven
D5 3.0 SDV6 HSE
15th Jun 2021 5:29 pm
Patman
Member Since: 16 Aug 2019
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 314
Worked out the issue I had the bar with spring on wrong way round 😆
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