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Best Recovery Items to Have??
I'm looking for a bit of guidance folks. I've been through the search facility and there is a lot of good info on here, but can someone summarise the best general kit to have in the back of the D3.
I was looking at this as a possible single buy and hopefully have all the right bits. Any thoughts?
What do you have in the way of recovery gear and where is the best place to get it on line? I don't know of any outlets near me where I could just go along and buy of the shelf so on-line would be best for me.
Thanks, John
22nd Mar 2006 8:51 pm
Smarticus
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Discokjp, the kit you linked to would really only be relevant if you had a winch on your vehicle. Assuming you aren't winch equiped, the key recovery items I would suggest for any offroading trip is as follows :
A good strong recovery rope or strap, at least 4 metres long, but longer is better and rated to 4 tonnes or more. If it is equipped with hooks at each end and these hooks are the right size to fit the front and rear recovery points on the D3 then all the better.
If you are planning on potentially getting stuck in deep mud, a KERR rope is not a bad idea (a kinetic energy recovery rope) but they need to be treated with great respect as if used incorrectly a lot of damage to man and metal can result.
A good jack (a decent bottle jack with a long action and a strong wooden platform will suffice).
A strong spade or spit
A bow saw and possibly a machete or similar for cutting up errant tree branches, roots and assorted other harmful vegetation.
Oh and some decent gloves and steel toe capped boots....
If you aren't offroading, I would settle for the strong tow rope, a good torch and in winter, a spade.Disco 4 TDV6HSE
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A good strong recovery rope or strap, at least 4 metres long, but longer is better and rated to 4 tonnes or more. If it is equipped with hooks at each end and these hooks are the right size to fit the front and rear recovery points on the D3 then all the better.
Even with the hooks, a good 4 or 5 tonne bow shackle (or two) are handy...
22nd Mar 2006 9:59 pm
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Thanks for that chaps. A quick search in Yell.co.uk has turned up the goods. I'm off to spend a couple of quid tomorrow.
Heavy snow forecast for our area tomorrow night, so I may get to use it in anger. Either that or the Police will arrest me for stalking rear wheel drive cars along country lane.
"Honest officer, I was waiting for him to slide into the field so I could recover him "
22nd Mar 2006 10:09 pm
Pelyma
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4 ton is a very light rope or strap. Straps are usually rated, ropes usually aren't. I have 2 12 ton straps, 4 ton shackles for them, a spade, jack, gloves and loppers. I would avoid kinetic ropes like the plague unless you have been trained in using them properly.
Probably just as important is to get training for the use of the above. Also buy the best quality you can afford. I bought black rat stuff from Brooklyn 4x4.DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
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22nd Mar 2006 11:23 pm
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Useful info chaps - so how much would I pay for one of these straps then?Steve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history)
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Very annoyed wrote:
A RRS is very useful!
Oi!! That's enough of that, ta very much
23rd Mar 2006 6:33 pm
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qzdcg8 wrote:
Useful info chaps - so how much would I pay for one of these straps then?
A 30T strap/sling would cost about £35, You don’t have to buy them from a 4x4 outlet. Some sell equipment that is not certificated . Go to your local industrial lifting equipment outlet. What ever you buy make sure it has a label or stamp with an SWL loading on it.In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
23rd Mar 2006 7:13 pm
catoperator
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towing slings chains etc do not have to be certified only lifting equipment need certification just do a google serch for suppliers in your area if you go to the sodbury sortouts there is usually a bloke selling a vast selection of sling chains etc its on in april
23rd Mar 2006 7:28 pm
AndrewS Tarquin of the Desert
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This is correct .
What I am saying is you can get equipment that may claim to be fit for purpose, or you can get equipment that IS fit for purpose and stamped and/or labelled correctly. Its up to the individual to get what they want. There is no way I will use anything that does not have a suitable Safe Working Load marked clearly, it's just not worth it. In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
Have seen shackles brake that are stamped slings that are tested so you cannot be to careful better being safe than sorryHome of RLD Hidden winch mounts Spare wheel Locks Trailer Body Fabrication [email protected] D3/4 sump plates MY 14 sump plates and the Discovery Sport wheel protectors Discovery 5 wheel locks
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23rd Mar 2006 9:19 pm
catoperator
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AndrewS wrote:
This is correct .
What I am saying is you can get equipment that may claim to be fit for purpose, or you can get equipment that IS fit for purpose and stamped and/or labelled correctly. Its up to the individual to get what they want. There is no way I will use anything that does not have a suitable Safe Working Load marked clearly, it's just not worth it.
the problem is how do you work out the swl you need a disabled vehicle on tarmac is easy to tow so a standard tow rope will do but when you are recovering a stuck vehicle it all changes a disco pulling a stuck disco out for instance = roughly 5 ton weight but then you have suction possibility of being wedged on something so you could have a 30 ton strop but then you need equivilent shackles hooks etc and somewhere good enough to take the strain i would rather snap a strop than damage the vehicle a small turfor winch is very handy and powerful just remember the all the saftey aspects flying bits kill
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. Go to your local industrial lifting equipment outlet. What ever you buy make sure it has a label or stamp with an SWL loading on it.
