Member Since: 13 Nov 2008
Location: Essex
Posts: 169
Cambelt Tensioner Mount Failure
Hi, My 2008 January would seem to fall into the range of oil pump casing/tensioner mounts that may fail. Is there any way of seeing the part number fitted while all assembled, or has it got to be pulled apart to see? Also, have LR made any comments on this potential disaster??
20th Jan 2013 8:40 pm
moates
Member Since: 24 May 2013
Location: N Ireland
Posts: 3
Please vote as appropriate and maybe comment in the thread if you have low, ave, high mileage.
March 2007 Discovery, 155,000 miles.
3rd Jun 2013 3:53 pm
boater
Member Since: 06 Dec 2012
Location: Thisted
Posts: 19
Early models
From this survey it seems to be most common to happen on 2005 models - i thought it was by far most common on 07 models? If i am correct the Oil pump housing is not superceeded on 2005-2006 models?'05 D3 TDV6 HSE- 156.000km - no major breakdowns, yet?
'07 RRS TDV8 HSE - 41.000km
2nd Feb 2014 9:14 am
Antjp
Member Since: 09 Aug 2013
Location: Warringon
Posts: 349
My05 Belts replaced, mount not failed and not replaced. Which box as I fail to understand.
2nd Feb 2014 10:24 am
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 73075
Poll is for if mount has failed, in this case not for you.
2nd Feb 2014 10:28 am
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 73075
Re: Early models
boater wrote:
From this survey it seems to be most common to happen on 2005 models - i thought it was by far most common on 07 models? If i am correct the Oil pump housing is not superceeded on 2005-2006 models?
I suspect this poll isn't very up to date. Would be more interesting if all those with failures ticked the box.
2nd Feb 2014 10:30 am
Antjp
Member Since: 09 Aug 2013
Location: Warringon
Posts: 349
DSL wrote:
Poll is for if mount has failed, in this case not for you.
I thought not that's why I didn't tick a box. It was a little confusing but I think the bit at the top was a give away.
2nd Feb 2014 10:44 am
DiscoTec
Member Since: 03 May 2009
Location: Oberstdorf
Posts: 6
Re: Early models
DSL wrote:
boater wrote:
From this survey it seems to be most common to happen on 2005 models - i thought it was by far most common on 07 models? If i am correct the Oil pump housing is not superceeded on 2005-2006 models?
I suspect this poll isn't very up to date. Would be more interesting if all those with failures ticked the box.
My Housing broke yesterday. MY07, 188000km
I think why there are not many 07 in this list is because most of them has nö relevant milage and are still Fine.
20th Mar 2014 7:52 am
Antjp
Member Since: 09 Aug 2013
Location: Warringon
Posts: 349
What damage gets caused. I had a crankshaft key way shear on a 2.5 tdi 5cylinder vw engine in a volvo v70. which resulted in the timing going out of sync. I heard bad noises when I restarted so I turned off immediately. Toed home. Timed up replaced key way pulley and righted bottom pulley tight. Restarted engine ran perfect. I was lucky. 2nd incident on my honda vtr firestorm V twin 1000. Timing chain tensioner on the front head went slack. Bike started making strange noise so switched off immediately. Knowing the common fault did not try to restart. Pushed it home. Striped off fairings cam cover and saw a slack chain and timing was out. 2 cams per cylinder. Timed it back up and replaced faulty tensioner built back up and runs perfect again. Them two high mileage engines defiantly sounded like valves hit pistons but are still running sweet as a nut. Would a tdv6 do that?
20th Mar 2014 3:57 pm
Barn1e D3 Decade
Member Since: 28 Aug 2006
Location: Mid-sussex
Posts: 2021
I thought I would resurrect this thread as I am sure members have had failures and may not have updated this thread / voting.
I also wanted to post my experience of contacting LR Customer Loyalty team. Wrote to them on Thursday asking them to replace the Oil Pump on my MY05 D3 free of charge. Lovely lady called me back on Friday to say they could not do anything until it failed
She checked my VIN, told me all was ok and no recalls outstanding (i knew that) but if it failed, to get back in touch and gave me the reference number should I need it. I then explained that if it failed I would not be happy if it was at speed on a motorway with kids in car and caravan on back. Also pointed out the overwhelming evidence to suggest a defect in the oil pump casing. Again, she reiterated that I should call back when it fails
I have not had that all confirmed by email, so I will confirm the call back to them in writing and state quite clearly that I hold them liable for ANY loss. I will also copy everything to Pete (LR) on here, but wanted to go through the normal channel first.2005, TDV6 S, Auto, 190k miles, owned from new, V8 Brake Upgrade, Nancom Evo, RLD protector, BAS EGR blanking & Remap, separate ATF cooler, changing all the fluids ahead of time.
26th Jul 2014 9:37 am
Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20838
Any early pumps I have changed (my own included) have shown no signs of stress/cracking
2 are on their way to Bodsy anyway, for him to check and what he wishes with My D3 Build Thread
Member Since: 16 Sep 2014
Location: Sunshine Coast
Posts: 3
2008ym
Just did my pump and belts etc at 183000KM belt badly cracked and sides splitting away with the fabric strands poking out. Oil pump compleatly fine, all roller etc felt fine to but changing regardless.
Not scoring in the oil pump, the car was in at a LR dealer for its 160000KM service a year ago but they did not do the belts or stuff all and did not tell the previous owner about the posible damage that could happen.
17th Sep 2014 11:22 pm
121tono
Member Since: 26 Mar 2013
Location: Saddleworth
Posts: 27
cant believe this is so common
11th Dec 2014 7:59 pm
STARK
Member Since: 16 Dec 2014
Location: Worcestershire
Posts: 97
I'm not quite sure how to interpret this thread😣
My MY2005 on 105k is going to MM4X4 on Tuesday for belts (timing and injection pump) and also a full service (ALL fluids).
Should I be getting them to do anything else while its in?
Tia
JackI am not in danger - I am the danger - I am the one who knocks
2nd Jan 2015 6:34 pm
longclose
Member Since: 07 Mar 2015
Location: Dorset UK
Posts: 234
SteveNorman wrote:
Quote:
Right, just to sum up:
Part no: 1348651,( still a currently sold part). upto 6a999999. No reported failures.
Part number: LR002465, (superceeded to LR013487) 7a000001 to 8a457085.... Has anyone had any fail in this chassis range?
Part number LR007131, ( superceeded to LR013487) 8a457086 to 9a508509.... I have checked & both failures I have seen fell in this chassis range.... 50-60,000 miles, never had a belt change. Both 57 plates
Part number LR007798 (superceeded to LR013487) 9a508510 to 9a510121.. Has anyone had any fail in this chassis range?
Part number LR013487 9a510122 on, inc 3.0. seems like the solution to 7a/8a/9a models?
Would be handy those that have had failures to look to see which part number range you fall into, then we will have a better idea of who has to worry!
I think it's important to find out which chassis range/part numbers are failing, so wondered if you want to add the chassis ranges above to the survey as well as the model years
regards
Steve
I have resurrected this thread down to the fact that no failures have been reported in South Africa, I had my belts changed and carried a new pump all the way from the UK to find that my vehicle was not fitted with the offending pump and had the double web around the tensioner.
As all D3's shipped to SA were EU3 spec, was the pump upgraded (to the offending pump) on these export vehicles?
My VIN number is SALLAAA138A488*** Unfortunately I did not get the part number when it was being changed maybe it has had a new engine prior to my ownership.Owning a Discovery 3 is like dating a model.. a firm body and shape, wow.. the ride is fantastic > for this your wallet can take a pounding and you worry about being deflated at any time...
2009 Model D3 HSE
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