Houghta
Member Since: 05 Nov 2016
Location: Northumberland
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Please let me know your thoughts
Would you let the ongoing crank failure issue put you from buying a second hand discovery 4
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 27th May 2018 9:05 pm |
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GLYNNE
Member Since: 06 Oct 2006
Location: KENT
Posts: 4645
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Not really, you could buy any vehicle and suffer a failure 
You just need to cross everything and enjoy it 
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| 27th May 2018 9:10 pm |
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galwaygreen
Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: plymouth
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would depend on mileage and service istory...although you say that...some with full istory have gone fuut
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| 27th May 2018 11:05 pm |
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galwaygreen
Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: plymouth
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if it comes with a LR warranty and fails in that period you've got half a chance of LR covering the £16 grand for a new engine,,outside of that it appears pot luck.
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| 27th May 2018 11:38 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
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I wouldn’t have a problem in buying another.
All the time that the likes of Warranty Direct still cover crank failure within their new policies, it’s fair to assume that the incidence of failure is a very great deal less than the impression given by reading this Forum.
As with any car of the cost and complexity of a D4, major repairs are usually going to be costly, so budget for a decent (non Land Rover) warranty in your calculations. It’s as good a reason as any to stay out of the dealer network and budget for 3 year’s WD cover with the money saved.
While good late D4’s remain sought after (there being no credible replacement) on the plus side, a combination of the media making a nice living out of anti-diesel hysteria and the exaggerated reporting of crank failures on here, it should help to suppress asking prices  2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 28th May 2018 6:01 am |
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DigitalJunior
Member Since: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Cumbria
Posts: 4398
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Having suffered a crank failure then yes I wouldn't buy another without robust service and warranty backup.
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| 28th May 2018 10:21 am |
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jeeptj
Member Since: 22 Jun 2018
Location: Washington
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Personally I think a crank snapping is unacceptable in any vehicle from any manufacturer or year, what happened to good old engine seizing or is that too retro these days lol.
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| 22nd Jun 2018 1:31 pm |
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galwaygreen
Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: plymouth
Posts: 6525
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it would be reasonable to get 100k milees out of any engine
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| 22nd Jun 2018 9:46 pm |
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lynalldiscovery
Member Since: 22 Dec 2009
Location: Maidstone
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I would say 100k 20 plus years ago, nowadays 200k shouldnt be out of the ordinary otherwise every D3 is scrap value and every D4 isnt far behind going on mileage alone.
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| 22nd Jun 2018 10:16 pm |
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galwaygreen
Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: plymouth
Posts: 6525
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would be nice if up to 100k miles was covered on warranty...like kia
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| 22nd Jun 2018 10:21 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7438
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As opposed to the unlimited mileage that LR offer? 
In all of the hype and the rumours around this, no one has ever been able to provide a genuine figure for failure rates on this engine, so it really is impossible to make an informed judgement.
However, if the likes of WD don’t exclude it, then that would tend to indicate that the chances of failure are probably low. 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 22nd Jun 2018 10:32 pm |
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Dannyson
Member Since: 15 Oct 2014
Location: Newquay, Cornwall
Posts: 820
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- my thoughts exactly..... if its OK with WD (but not LR extended warranty company ) - then it must still be pretty rare.... the official stats don't seem to be available....  2016MY Discovery HSE - Black
2009MY Toyota Land Cruiser (Lc4) - Black
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| 22nd Jun 2018 11:19 pm |
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DG
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Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
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Red Merle wrote:
In all of the hype and the rumours around this, no one has ever been able to provide a genuine figure for failure rates on this engine, so it really is impossible to make an informed judgement.
Depends who you talk to 
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| 22nd Jun 2018 11:44 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7438
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If you have access to a figure such as “Land Rover state that for every 1,000 vehicles, 5 will fail in any 12 month period”**, then please share it It’s the sort of data that we really need.
Until then, we’re just guessing 
** This is a made up example, I don’t want to be responsible for another “I read somewhere that...” comment  2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 23rd Jun 2018 8:04 am |
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