Member Since: 21 Mar 2015
Location: Nuneaton
Posts: 63
DG, mines a standard SE V6D on the 5 split spoke style 5021. Decent sidewall, so not so easy to kerb, a number of guys at work running the larger wheels have managed to kerb them !
15th Mar 2018 6:15 pm
DG Site Moderator
Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
Posts: 50979
thanks for that.... I know a few have been looking for 19s 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
15th Mar 2018 6:18 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 73121
And no rummaging in my garage or shed for my extra set of 19s.
15th Mar 2018 6:23 pm
Pedros
Member Since: 25 Jun 2011
Location: Cumbria
Posts: 454
Had a good read of this. I have a D4 and recently that went in to the main dealers over 3 days so that they could make some money to pay for their nice new showroom. They gave me a D5 diesel HSE. So I was interested in how much my initial experiences differed from yours.
The short answer was very little. The ride characteristics and performance are exactly as you describe. I remember commenting to the wife that the bumps were more pronounced in it.
Can I add anything? My short affair with this car coincided with the day of the week that I do a grandkid school run, so had to fit three kid seats in the middle and one in the back. The motorised seats in the back are, for many people I would guess a gimmick. But if you do regularly have them up and down and need to put kids seats in, it's a boon. I can't comment on accessibility to the rearmost seats, because with all the middle section taken up, it's a case of firing a 7 year old through the back door for access there.
I suppose the perennial question is, would you upgrade? Looks wise, the outside is (like many have said) perhaps an acquired taste. But let's not forget that the D3 on launch was likened to a London taxi cab. Inside, there's a definite improvement. To the extent that when I got back into my D4, initially it felt like I was sitting in a D2! However, once driving, the differences are pretty small and sort of cancel themselves out. To the extent that you end up with the feeling that the whole D5 upgrade is mostly cosmetic. So, to answer the question, so that I can stop drivelling on and go and put the kettle on. Yes, I would upgrade to a D5, finances allowing and when it was time to change anyway. Just don't expect a seismic change in all areas if you do though. Incidentally the car did get admiring looks and comments from friends, acquaintances and random people when refuelling. So if that is important...
28th May 2018 9:41 pm
AndrewS Tarquin of the Desert
Member Since: 06 May 2005
Location: Y...... because I can
Posts: 10442
In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
29th May 2018 10:46 am
WayneD
Member Since: 11 Sep 2007
Location: Sydney Darwin ,Singapore, USA, UK and now country NSW
Posts: 531
Well I have had my D5 for 10 months and have clocked up 30,000klm driving in both cold (below zero) and hot conditions. 46C on a trip out through Queensland towing a camper trailer and the car has not missed a beat.
I miss my D3 as it was well kitted out but I seemed to always have my hand in my pocket and I was getting reluctant to take it off road. Spent about $20k on it with accessories and repairs and when the opportunity came to upgrade could not help myself and bought the D5 TDV6. The D5 is much more car like to drive and off course has all the mod cons the D3 did not. Have had the D5 on the beach a few times and it feels much more fleet footed but yet to get it off road like the D3 to really test it out.
Surprised at the number of people that comment on what a lovely looking vehicle it is, yes even from the rear.
I love the fact that when the phone beeps for a message now I don't go straight to the dash looking for faults.Take the road less traveled. Dual battery system.ORS drawers,LR cargo Barrier.ARB Bull bar,side protection bars,Mickey Thompson ATR's 17" rims, Rear wheel carrier, radiator guard TPMS Mitchell Bros Tow Hitch LR RAI Steel Rims , GME UHF, Off Road GPS, Llams (yet to be fitted)
16th May 2019 11:16 am
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13604
Met a chap today who has a Velar. He said that he'd had RRSs in the past and loved them. Then went to Mercs for a while. Came back to LR for the Velar. Wants rid of it as it's been in 4 times in quick succession with InControl problems. He also thinks the build quality is sub-par. Here we go, thought I, rants about LR incoming.
Then he said that he'd had a D5 for a few days during the Velar's last dealership stay. Loved the D5 and would happily get shot of the Velar and replace with the D5! "Lovely" and "brilliant" were adjectives used. My smack was duly gobbed... Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
16th May 2019 3:42 pm
jimbg
Member Since: 19 Apr 2013
Location: UK
Posts: 478
Sensible man
Had a loan Velar a couple of times and it is horrible.
16th May 2019 3:57 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
Out of the frying pan into the fire springs to mind
The D5 uses the same software and suffers the same gremlins. Plus if it’s the 3.0, regular service warnings are par for the course. I wouldn’t touch another 3.0 D5 with a barge pole.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
16th May 2019 8:24 pm
DG Site Moderator
Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
Posts: 50979
No gremlins for me 14 months in 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
16th May 2019 8:38 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
Yeah a few Velar owners have went through ownership unscathed. I wasn’t so lucky.
Two new headlights
A rear light
A shock absorber
Numerous software bugs
EGR issues
Passenger door out of alignment
16 months of ownership, that’s a trip to the dealers every month
And I still put a deposit on the new Defender 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
16th May 2019 9:22 pm
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The penalty for living north of the border 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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