G.W.
Member Since: 20 Jan 2013
Location: Worcestershire
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Okay, so I'm booked to go off to la belle France again this year and I was reading a thread on here about getting the Liber-T tag to whizz through the barriers.
I bet I can't use those with a caravan, I thought.
Wrong! It seems that I can. 
However, as I looked through the terms and conditions, I noticed that Class 2 is for 'medium vehicles' with a GVW of less than 3.5T.
If that's the GVW of the car, then I'm sorted. But if it's the train weight, then I can't use the Telepeage and, worse luck, could be rated at Class 4! 
Thanks for sticking with me - a little reassurance please. When you travel on the continent, whether you use the Tag or just pay the tolls in whatever way you choose (SWMBO, a net out of the passenger window, running around to speak to the mademoiselle in the box) do you get charged as Class 2?
You do, don't you?
I'm not sure about whether to invest in a Liber-T tag - as we're limited to 55 anyway (oui, monsieur gendarme!  ) I might just stick to the N roads this year and not bother with the Autoroutes. But it could make life a bit easier, albeit with a shocking bill on the PO Credit Card later on! "The quality remains long after the price has been forgotten." Henry Royce
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DiscoDunc
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ive got a www.saneftolling.co.uk Tag
and yes, car and caravan are Class 2 due to height of caravan I think
went to the Alp in September last Year (Annecy) and it cost £250 in tolls !! Duncan
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| 3rd May 2013 10:31 am |
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G.W.
Member Since: 20 Jan 2013
Location: Worcestershire
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£250... eep...
Yeah, so, those N-roads are great, aren't they? :laugh:
Thanks for the reassurance about the tolls - I nearly had kitten when I worked out (quite wrongly it seems) that I might have inadvertantly dumped myself into Class 4!! "The quality remains long after the price has been forgotten." Henry Royce
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| 3rd May 2013 7:28 pm |
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DSL
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You can also get a tag from APRR, bit cheaper but not as easy/convenient to buy. Well worth getting, whatever the type. Even for overheight D3s there are non stop lanes on many autoroutes, and ISTR most, if not all, lanes work with the tags. 
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| 3rd May 2013 7:44 pm |
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gecko_fr
Member Since: 26 Jul 2010
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Have a look here :
http://www.autoroutes.fr/FCKeditor/UserFil...E%20BD.pdf
I know, it's in froggie language, but I didn't find any document in English...
If you car and the trailer are under 2 meters high, you will pay for class 1.
If you car and the trailer are under 3 meters high, you will pay for class 2.
PTAC <3,5T : It is the maximum weight of the car, don't worry !
But, Liber-t can't be use on other class than class 1, except if you buy a special for trucks or for bikes.
To be known :
If you put bicycles (for example) on the top of the car, they only consider the height of the car. Same for a trailer. If you put a dicovery on a flat trailer, you will pay for class 1 (it's the heights of the trailer or the car). But in this case, be carefull not to use specials ways for liber-t class 1, they have 2 m high porch.... Use Liber-t ways for trucks 
(sorry for my bad english, expect that it's understandable  )
edit :
just found this :
http://www.autoroutes.fr/en/vehicle-classification.htm
have a look on those web sites :
http://www.autoroutes.fr/index.htm?lang=en
https://www.bipandgo.com/en 
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| 5th May 2013 6:35 am |
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DSL
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No problem with using teleapeage lanes with the 2.0m height barriers, just knock it into access height as you slow down then back to normal height though. I use them on most of a trip if I've remembered to take off the CB whip. Unless you have a roofrack, or are stuck in offroad height, have added height through rods or elecktrickery, or have a pet giraffe with its head through the sunroof. There are more & more 30km telepeage lanes without height restrictions as well. Simples. 
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| 5th May 2013 7:59 am |
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Moo
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Highly recommended. Makes life so much easier, particularly if your passenger is fast asleep!
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| 5th May 2013 8:21 am |
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DSL
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And you whisk past all the queues where some twonk has got to the booth then realised all his money is in his jeans pocket which is packed at the bottom of his suitcase in the boot. When it's busy you can save loads of time not sitting there doing nothing.
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| 5th May 2013 8:33 am |
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ruggedpeak
Member Since: 10 Jun 2010
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And all the Brits who blasted past you at 95mph a few miles earlier and are stuck in the queue and will have to overtake you again whilst risking a large fine from the gendarmes 8) Tony
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| 5th May 2013 8:43 am |
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DSL
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Always a bonus!! 
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| 5th May 2013 8:44 am |
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2929twin
Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
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Thank you Gecko, very useful.
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| 5th May 2013 9:01 am |
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G.W.
Member Since: 20 Jan 2013
Location: Worcestershire
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DSL wrote:Unless you have a roofrack, or are stuck in offroad height, have added height through rods or elecktrickery, or have a pet giraffe with its head through the sunroof.
Or a 2.7m high caravan attached...
Thanks for all the info - my fears are allayed about being lumped into Class 4. Of course it wouldn't - GVW and GTW are totally different. Why didn't my brain explain that to me first time around?
Thanks for all the info Gecko - the second link is really useful:
Classe 2 - Intermediate vehicles
- Vehicle with overall height from 2 to 3 metres and GVW not exceeding 3.5 tonnes
- Train with overall height from 2 to 3 metres and GVW of towing vehicle not exceeding 3.5 tonnes
Will have a closer look at the route and the Liber-T system; I might stick to the N-roads this year but the motorway does make it so much more relaxing.
There again, I've only just picked up the Disco and the difference between it and the Kia it replaced is astonishing - I've had more stressful baths. "The quality remains long after the price has been forgotten." Henry Royce
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| 5th May 2013 1:18 pm |
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martinV
Member Since: 04 Feb 2013
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As my understanding of the French language is at a novice level I might be wrong but from what I've read you need to subscribe to a specific track and the subscription is not for all French "péage" highways.
That limits the freedom of travelling and I think it will be my choice to go through the "holiday" gates and practice my French for a moment  Discovery 3 HSE
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| 5th May 2013 1:46 pm |
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DSL
Keeper of the wheelie bin
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A Peage tag from any French autoroute company can be used on all French Peage sections. There was talk of being able to use the French tags on Spanish Autovias but nothing ever came of it.
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| 5th May 2013 2:07 pm |
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CFB
Member Since: 02 Dec 2005
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Am I likely to encounter any pay tolls on the way to Disney Paris from Calais? Heading there in August and not driven to France for years
Is it worth having a tag for a short run?
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| 5th May 2013 4:16 pm |
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