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Heliart
Member Since: 05 Aug 2017
Location: Wiltshire
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Oh dear.
Sold my 2008 D3 2 years ago. Nothing wrong with it at all, but space etc drove the decision. I've always regretted it. Still got my Defender 110 that's been my daily drive since, but my wife struggles with it. She loved he D3 btw.
I'm really after buying a D4, and I really have an urge for an imported D4 V8.
I'm eyes wide open, but apart from the timing chain issues on that engine it looks like it could be a keeper.
Anyone who's been through it care to share the rough cost of a timing chain/tensioner change?
Don't talk me out of it, I've had this itch for a long time.
Thanks very much.
Steve
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3rd Jul 2024 5:04 pm |
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chugga90
Member Since: 13 Aug 2014
Location: Buckinghamshire
Posts: 441
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On the full fat forum you will find more information on the chains and costs!
Fellow going by the user name DHallworth I think it was did them on his current vehicle. Discovery commercial tdv6 auto 2013
Volkswagen t6 lwb Kombi dsg 4motion 2018
Volkswagen t5.1 lwb single cab tipper 2013
Discovery commercial sdv6 auto 2014 gone and not really missed.
Range Rover Tdv8 gone
Freelander 2 I6 very sadly gone
VW t5 Dsg gone and missed
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3rd Jul 2024 5:40 pm |
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dafridgie
Member Since: 16 Apr 2022
Location: Wiltshire
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wouldn't dream of talking you out of it, i think they are a good choice if short journeys are done often and of course less risk on the engine
are you buying locally via import company or importing yourself ?
hope you get a good one
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3rd Jul 2024 5:50 pm |
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chugga90
Member Since: 13 Aug 2014
Location: Buckinghamshire
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https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic67143.html
Bit of reading here. Discovery commercial tdv6 auto 2013
Volkswagen t6 lwb Kombi dsg 4motion 2018
Volkswagen t5.1 lwb single cab tipper 2013
Discovery commercial sdv6 auto 2014 gone and not really missed.
Range Rover Tdv8 gone
Freelander 2 I6 very sadly gone
VW t5 Dsg gone and missed
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3rd Jul 2024 7:14 pm |
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KPTV8
Member Since: 05 Feb 2012
Location: Itinerant !! (Scotland/Donegal)
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I'm well into my 2nd year running a D4 5.0 RHD import from Japan.
Prior to that I had three D3 V8 4.4s, all were decent and enjoyed and fab for getting around UK.
My D4 is best of them all by a margin, a real delight to drive, and free thus far from serious mechanical or electrical problems.
I am indeed conscious of the timing chain guide risks, hoping soon to find someone good with engines who can tell me if my V8 is one of the vulnerable builds.
This car ticks more boxes than any other I've had down the years, I intend to run it until the industry comes up with an EV 4x4 worth sniffing at - possibly 7 - 10 years hence.
Meantime MAYBE I should take a closer look at D5s - but they remind me of a thoroughbred crossed with Mr. Blobby; and the new Defenders just don't provide enough USEFUL SPACE above that pretty massive footprint !!!
So, yes, if you can afford the fuel, then go for your dream car while you can use it and enjoy it. Otherwise you'll just fret into the future that you missed out. After all, although fuel comprises a BIG element in cost of ownership, the BIGGEST chunk will always be depreciation; good psychology to bear that in mind when standing at the Costco pump !!!
(BTW my D4 is ULEZ compliant !!!)
Wishing you happy days ))
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4th Jul 2024 12:31 am |
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Heliart
Member Since: 05 Aug 2017
Location: Wiltshire
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Great feedback, thank you.
Yeap, the more I think about it, getting a petrol V8 D4 seems to tick all of my boxes.
I really think EV adoption will stall, so waiting for an EV 4x4 might be a very long wait - way to many barriers in the way (resources, grid, cost, safety etc), and governments will be forced to rethink the whole NetZero nonsense, and adopt a more pragmatic approach. Dropping the mandates and simply let the technology lead the adoption. "If it's better, they will come".
Cheers,
Steve
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4th Jul 2024 8:42 am |
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kajtzu
Member Since: 11 Aug 2017
Location: Helsinki
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KPTV8 wrote:After all, although fuel comprises a BIG element in cost of ownership, the BIGGEST chunk will always be depreciation; good psychology to bear that in mind when standing at the Costco pump !!!
(BTW my D4 is ULEZ compliant !!!)
Wishing you happy days ))
As depreciation, unlike fuel, is a non-cash item it does not affect your cash flow negatively. While obviously not financial advice, I would recommend to think of private vehicles as toys rather than any kind of investments.
(And yes I’ve spent “a few” euros over 120k km on fuel for my D3 V8)
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4th Jul 2024 11:41 am |
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jaqoda
Member Since: 23 Jan 2019
Location: Manchester
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KPTV8 wrote:I'm well into my 2nd year running a D4 5.0 RHD import from Japan.
Prior to that I had three D3 V8 4.4s, all were decent and enjoyed and fab for getting around UK.
My D4 is best of them all by a margin, a real delight to drive, and free thus far from serious mechanical or electrical problems.
I am indeed conscious of the timing chain guide risks, hoping soon to find someone good with engines who can tell me if my V8 is one of the vulnerable builds.
This car ticks more boxes than any other I've had down the years, I intend to run it until the industry comes up with an EV 4x4 worth sniffing at - possibly 7 - 10 years hence.
Meantime MAYBE I should take a closer look at D5s - but they remind me of a thoroughbred crossed with Mr. Blobby; and the new Defenders just don't provide enough USEFUL SPACE above that pretty massive footprint !!!
So, yes, if you can afford the fuel, then go for your dream car while you can use it and enjoy it. Otherwise you'll just fret into the future that you missed out. After all, although fuel comprises a BIG element in cost of ownership, the BIGGEST chunk will always be depreciation; good psychology to bear that in mind when standing at the Costco pump !!!
(BTW my D4 is ULEZ compliant !!!)
Wishing you happy days ))
Can you (or anyone) recommend a dealer that imports from Japan?
I am also in the market for a V8 but not sure the best place to source them.
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4th Jul 2024 2:41 pm |
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disco chris
Member Since: 25 Apr 2022
Location: London
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They seem to pop up most regularly with Jap Car Finder... they tend to have 1 or 2 for sale at any one time. I'm not seriously looking, just fantasising, but I'd be tempted to go to them and have a look around if I was thinking hard about it. They seem to have pretty good reviews.
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4th Jul 2024 3:15 pm |
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KPTV8
Member Since: 05 Feb 2012
Location: Itinerant !! (Scotland/Donegal)
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Try sending p.m. to GARDENDISCO ))
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5th Jul 2024 3:12 pm |
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Heliart
Member Since: 05 Aug 2017
Location: Wiltshire
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Thought I would give you guys an update.
Picked up a Japanese import a few weeks ago.
67K miles on the clock, full service history.
Been running her just to try to understand any issues that need fixing.
On the face of it she is in really good condition, zero rust.
Nothing on the IIDTool scan.
There appears to be some chain slapping, but hard to determine how serious.
I had factored in the cost of doing the timing chains and cross over pipes before committing to buy.
Due to the lower mileage I was considering doing the official "zip tie" method of only changing the tensioners and guides. https://www.rangerovers.net/threads/5-0l-t...od.335252/
It's the same dismantle up to that point, so will decide once I get a look at the chains.
I started Friday. It's a lot to take off.
I removed the radiator to allow more access at the front, and also allow the official crank pulley puller to fit.
Not removed the crank yet, still waiting for the tool to arrive.
btw, job cost so far including tool costs is about £1000 cheaper than the quote I got from a good independent Jag specialist. But it's not all about the cost as I really wanted to do it myself from the off.
Watch this space.
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11th Aug 2024 8:41 am |
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