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Long overdue or too heavy handed?
Saw this on the news tonight, looks like the police are taking a tougher stance against moped criminals by knocking them off their bikes. Link Here
In my opinion, it's about time they took a tougher stance against the perpetrators and if a few get hurt in the process................tough s**t.
So what do you reckon, too heavy handed or appropriate action?Mods:
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23rd Nov 2018 6:20 pm
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In my area we have problems with bikers, they tear up and down the playing field at the bottom of my street, which is popular with dog walkers. The bikers ride pretty close to people, they’ve scared my dog a few times by revving their engine and riding close up to her. Very intimidating. Police up here are powerless, they at the moment at least can’t give chase.
It’s about time tougher action is taken.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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23rd Nov 2018 6:25 pm
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It will be fine until someone gets hurt then the do gooders will start Discovery 3 se gone
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23rd Nov 2018 6:27 pm
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Dont have a problem m with the police using all reasonable force to stop them or any other criminals.==================================
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23rd Nov 2018 6:30 pm
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Proportionate IMO ....though no doubt there will be an outcry when one of them buys the farm
23rd Nov 2018 6:32 pm
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I’ve got a problem when it’s not immediately obvious which one the criminal is - the person on the bike, or the officer driving the car.
Taking it to an extreme, I’m sure we’d feel pretty sick if one of our (innocent) relatives were deliberately knocked down and possibly even killed having been misidentified.2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
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23rd Nov 2018 6:45 pm
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If you were innocent, presumably you’d not “fail to stop” and thus avoid being pursued?2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
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23rd Nov 2018 6:51 pm
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I’m not sure how many other road users would have failure to stop met with a method of stopping that risks instant serious injury or death. Even stingers are designed to deflate tyres in a controlled manor allowing a fleeing car to come to a safe stop.
I remember seeing police footage of a police car striking a cyclist and knocking him off in circumstances that were hardly called for, but once this kind of power is issued, where does it stop?2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
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23rd Nov 2018 7:30 pm
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After seeing what these mobs do ....seemingly with impunity ...it's the only way I'm afraid.
The police driver has to make the right calculation based upon the additional training they receive. So far injuries have been no worse that if you were tackled in a foot-chase.....and more importantly there's a certain satisfaction in seeing them tumble down the road.
23rd Nov 2018 7:53 pm
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Red Merle wrote:
I’ve got a problem when it’s not immediately obvious which one the criminal is - the person on the bike, or the officer driving the car.
Oh I'm sure the police are fully aware which one the criminal is and use a tactic that is deemed suitable to execute a successful arrest. I'm sure if there was any doubt what so ever, the tactics would be different.Mods:
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23rd Nov 2018 7:55 pm
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LT wrote:
If you were innocent, presumably you’d not “fail to stop” and thus avoid being pursued?
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J77 wrote:
In my area we have problems with bikers, they tear up and down the playing field at the bottom of my street, which is popular with dog walkers. The bikers ride pretty close to people, they’ve scared my dog a few times by revving their engine and riding close up to her. Very intimidating. Police up here are powerless, they at the moment at least can’t give chase.
It’s about time tougher action is taken.
These are not "bikers" . They use mopeds and/or bikes, but please don't tar real bikers with the same brush.
23rd Nov 2018 8:47 pm
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Watching the footage on here, half the time they crash on their own anyway.
I'm ambivalent about it. The right-wing, living-in-the-50s side of me thinks "yeah, sod 'em, it's their own fault". The more liberal side thinks "great, more money wasted both by the NHS patching them up and defending claims against the police".
Of course, a few months of this happening and the thugs will choose a new MO and the issue will go away anyway.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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