Robert SausageTrousers
Member Since: 09 Aug 2015
Location: Cornwall
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I recently had a brand new D4 HSE LUX for a couple of days while my 2010 HSE was in with LR having work done, my D4 has covered 74k, 12k of those has been done in the last 12 months under my ownership - I was toying with the idea of 'upgrading' to a new model before they disappear as I'm not a fan of the D5 from what I've seen so far - anyhow, I was REALLY let down by my experience, my D4's worth about 40k less than the one I borrowed and there really was no massive differences to note! Really it was fantastic as I was able to ascertain that I'm happy to keep my 2010 and it put any hankering after a new one to bed!
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crews control
Member Since: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Dorset
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I totally agree Robert, I would have been more than happy to keep my old MY11. Trouble was, after 126,000 happy miles it was starting to get a little costly and unreliable to use from a business perspective. In the end, the fantastic deals you can currently get swung it for me.
For most of us, the D4 still beats most of the competition. After about a year of looking and testing new vehicles, the closest choice for me was the new Volvo XC90 D5. Unfortunately, I couldn't live with the feeble 4 cylinder and massive turbo lag.
So the big question for me is not will the new D5 be better than the old D4... it's will it be better than an XC90? 2005 D3 HSE
2011 D4 Landmark
2016 D4 HSE Lux
2017 Ford Tourneo VR46
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| 14th Aug 2016 5:24 pm |
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Brian_DL13
Member Since: 25 Aug 2013
Location: Teesdale
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Red Merle wrote:The stop start is extremely intrusive on my MY16 HSE as well. Unfortunately, we can't get the lower road fund licence banding AND have the stop start default to off.
Just ask the garage to disable it next time it's in for a service.
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| 14th Aug 2016 5:38 pm |
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crews control
Member Since: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Dorset
Posts: 5011
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Wow, really? That would be great.  2005 D3 HSE
2011 D4 Landmark
2016 D4 HSE Lux
2017 Ford Tourneo VR46
Club Waitomo
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| 14th Aug 2016 5:43 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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Brian_DL13 wrote:Red Merle wrote:The stop start is extremely intrusive on my MY16 HSE as well. Unfortunately, we can't get the lower road fund licence banding AND have the stop start default to off.
Just ask the garage to disable it next time it's in for a service.
Mine's in for it's second service next week. I shall ask the question and I will publish their reply.... 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 14th Aug 2016 7:37 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
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crews control wrote:After about a year of looking and testing new vehicles, the closest choice for me was the new Volvo XC90 D5. Unfortunately, I couldn't live with the feeble 4 cylinder and massive turbo lag.
Unfortunately, "feeble 4 cylinder and massive turbo lag" will be the way forward. It's the sort of nonsense to be expected in a XC90, but it's unforgivable in a Disco! Just look at the premium that Jaguar charge for a 3.0 diesel F-Pace over the 2.0 litre Ingenium engine version; I imagine that you'll be looking at the future price differential for a D5 with a proper engine over that with the ubiquitous four 
crews control wrote:So the big question for me is not will the new D5 be better than the old D4... it's will it be better than an XC90?
It'll certainly be much closer to being in line with the mass market appeal of regular SUV's / MPV's, such as the XC90 and the X5, but we'll just have to wait and see if they can ditch their existing USP's and build a better Volvo or BMW than the past masters at the task can... 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 14th Aug 2016 8:09 pm |
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1967jester
Member Since: 05 May 2010
Location: Usually in the North East though I have been known to travel
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3 weeks into the 15 Lux from a 12 HSE
Flappy paddles; had them on the 12, use them a bit, a sod when wheel turned & you go to use them & they're not 'there'
Footwell; no issues
Sat Nav; seems to take forever to fire up, when it gets there I feel it's an improvement
Rotary knob; no issues
Paint; not noticed anything
USB; stupid place to put it, loose more of the already short storage space
Blind Spot Monitoring; it's a bit hit & miss in it's decision making
Meridian; I love it
Stop/start; concept great, application not, (SWMBO's has been back in twice now as it's so temperamental), I don't understand how it can stop then start again without moving your foot, think it needs some TLC
Seats; not sure if placebo but feels firmer & more comfortable.
2nd & 3rd row; the seat covers I used in the 12 now seem baggy & don't fit, 2nd row ctr especially. Paul.
06 Java Black HSE - gone
12 Baltic Blue HSE - gone
15 Fuji HSE Lux
Club Biscuits, mmmm nice!
Traxide/Luna hybrid & Yellow top
Some Prospeed bits
+ some other stuff
Club N.E.R.D.s.
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| 14th Aug 2016 9:16 pm |
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crews control
Member Since: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Dorset
Posts: 5011
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Quote:Meridian; I love it
I'd forgotten about that... yes it is a big improvement 2005 D3 HSE
2011 D4 Landmark
2016 D4 HSE Lux
2017 Ford Tourneo VR46
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| 14th Aug 2016 9:22 pm |
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DG
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Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
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Sounds like whining 1st world problems in this thread 
I loved my other Discos but I wouldn't swap them for my current.
As for stop start ...just press the  off button if you don't like it  21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 14th Aug 2016 9:45 pm |
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1967jester
Member Since: 05 May 2010
Location: Usually in the North East though I have been known to travel
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No whining from me, open appraisal as far as I'm concerned. Loved all of the ones I've had, each being an improvement on the last in most respects, just think some things heven't been properly thought out. Age old adage of no design is perfect, there's always room for improvement Paul.
06 Java Black HSE - gone
12 Baltic Blue HSE - gone
15 Fuji HSE Lux
Club Biscuits, mmmm nice!
Traxide/Luna hybrid & Yellow top
Some Prospeed bits
+ some other stuff
Club N.E.R.D.s.
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| 14th Aug 2016 9:54 pm |
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crews control
Member Since: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Dorset
Posts: 5011
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Quote:Sounds like whining 1st world problems
Probably... but with LR charging ever increasing premium prices, should we not expect our cars to be the best they can? 2005 D3 HSE
2011 D4 Landmark
2016 D4 HSE Lux
2017 Ford Tourneo VR46
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| 14th Aug 2016 9:57 pm |
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DG
Site Moderator
Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
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We are misguided to think they are premium prices ......they are entirely relative to the pricing structure that always was ...with relevant inflation. 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 14th Aug 2016 10:19 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
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Indeed. Taking inflation into account, my 2006 HSE was very close in price to my 2016 Landmark.
Check out this inflation calculator:
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/a...-1900.html
2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
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| 14th Aug 2016 10:35 pm |
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mse
Member Since: 27 Jun 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 2704
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In the last 6 years, each Land Rover (in this case 6 but 8 in total) has been an improvement each year.
Blind spot is awesome...the only thing with the latest infotainment is the halfway house between the current rest of model infotainment and the 2015 discovery...poor the 2015 or latest version would have been far better Mike
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| 14th Aug 2016 10:55 pm |
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Dave T
Member Since: 03 Jul 2009
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 6910
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I only paid about £500 more for my 2016 Graphite, that has more kit, than my 2012 XS, so price is good for me.
Biggest problem....... rear wiper switch! the D3 version was far easier to use without taking your hand off!!!!!!! Joined the BMWX5 45e group
1994 Defender 90
2015 RRS Corris Grey/Black roof
2016 D4 Graphite Santorini Black
2012 D4 XS Orkney Grey
2005 D3 S Maya Gold
Convoy for Heroes 2011
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