Police fail to take action against travellers racing on road
Over the Bank Holiday weekend the A33 near Micheldever was closed for the majority of Saturday and Sunday because travellers were illegally racing horses & traps over the main road.
It is now reported that the same people are planning to race along the A33 again in June – and police are unsure if they will be able to stop them.
Speaking at Micheldever Parish Council's AGM, Winchester district police inspector John Stribley said it is unknown whether officers will be able to prevent the dangerous sport.
He said:
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"We are aware that the event is planned for June 19 and 20, and this has been moved from a district concern to a force-wide issue. This means we will hopefully be better resourced.
"I don't yet know whether we will be stopping the event, this is now being dealt with at a higher level. When I have the answer, I will let you know. Of course in an ideal world I would like something in place to stop such disruption, but as I say that decision won't be made by me.
I am appalled by Hampshire Constabulary failing to act.
A few months ago travellers set up camp on a local football pitch. It was reported that a number of their vehicles were not taxed & insured. The Police did nothing.
It seems to me that this is discrimination, against non-travellers who under similar circumstances would have faced having their vehicles seized & prosecution.
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Never been to Appleby around the time of the Horse Fair then ? the race them through the crowds there. madness. went once when I was a kid. never again.
as for "A few months ago travellers set up camp on a local football pitch. It was reported that a number of their vehicles were not taxed & insured. The Police did nothing." ... the problem is that if you confiscate the vehicles, their owners can't* move on. not a desirable outcome.
* until they've nicked someone else's vehicle to do so. the permanent site at Little Lever (Bolton) has been raided multiple times in recent weeks and several cars recovered.
The owners could however be prosecuted and given appropriate sentences, if convicted.
To take no action is discriminatory, but there is appropriate action which can be taken.
In the case of the racing traps, confiscate, and possibly scrap them for second or subsequent offences.
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6th May 2021 9:05 am
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I’d rather that they were allowed to do this legally somewhere where it wouldn’t cause such an inconvenience.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
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I'm sure they would be welcome provided they pay the going rate, and clear up after themselves.
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6th May 2021 9:17 am
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My thoughts exactly. Sadly very few places will host any event linked to the travelling community and they don’t tend do themselves any favours either.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
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6th May 2021 9:25 am
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they'd shovel up the tarmac to use on someone's drive !
6th May 2021 11:25 am
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I am sad/ashamed to say as former copper that these members of the Travelling Community, or at least those that disobey the law, create nuisance and disturb local communities are untouchable in the eyes of senior politically correct/Woke personnel. They fear racism accusations and won't act with the Force level resources that are needed to combat law breaking such as that seen on the A34.
That Inspector will never be able to muster enough personnel to make a show of strength suitable that law breakers decide to move elsewhere.
There are countless examples around the Country (although many more in the south) where Policing knows events are happening and chooses to do nothing over letting the event happen and knowing it will 'go away' in a day or so.
I am not anti Gypsy, I am anti law breaking. Especially those who do so causing massive inconvenience to law abiding citizens.
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The A27 near Chichester is the only place I have ever seen "No racing horse-drawn vehicles" signs.
Interesting that such behaviour is more-or-less condoned by the Police but a slight mis-spacing of letters in a number-plate is an issue.
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6th May 2021 3:43 pm
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Here in North Wales, the police simply ignore the travelling community - I guess they fear what might happen if they don't. The result is that the community see themselves as above the law.
There's a legal traveller camp just outside Wrexham, on a busy route in/out of the town. Teenagers are frequently reported throwing missiles (bricks, stones, etc.) at passing cars, and are known to have disappeared into the camp if challenged. This has been going on for a very long time - and nothing is ever done, even though the source of the problem is painfully obvious. Eventually it's going to cause an accident, and someone is going to get injured or worse - whether that is enough for action to be taken remains to be seen.
Over the recent bank holiday weekend, a bunch of them set up camp in the grounds of a local secondary school. Between the police and the local authority, no-one had the balls to do anything about it other than to say "we've issued them with the paperwork telling them they have to leave" (yeah, like that's going to make a difference!). The result was that almost 2,000 secondary school students lost a whole day of teaching on Tuesday, because it was deemed unsafe to open the school while the travellers were on site. Repercussions as a result of this? Absolutely nothing.
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Back in the day, when I worked for a living, a group of travellers pitched up a plot just down from the factory we were building. When they were told to move they tried to extort cash out of the developers saying their vans were broken down and wouldn’t start. The developer responded by turning up early in the morning with diggers and started digging a very deep trench around the plot. Suddenly the broken down vans fired into life and they moved on, to become someone else’s problem.
'Back in the day', travellers who had set up camp in a local car-park moved on after they were repeatedly woken at two am by the Police citing broken tail-lamps. The tail-lamps had been intact a few moments before...
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race them through the crowds there. madness. went once when I was a kid. never again.
