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Davethegeo
 


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Scotland 2014 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Corris GreyDiscovery 4
Stop Start - illogical behaviour

When my car has warmed up, battery is charged, foot on the brake pedal at lights, the engine stops and the ECO light on the dashboard lights up. All well and good.
However, if I do handbrake and neutral, or even just handbrake and foot off the pedal to avoid blinding the drivers behind me, then the engine starts again. Doh! The car is still stationary and the only difference is that my foot is off the pedal. That behaviour seems daft to me.
Handbrake and gear knob in P will stop the engine again.
Is there anyway to prevent the engine starting again when I take my foot off the pedal even though the handbrake is on?
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grzesiul
 


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Poland 2016 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 SE Auto Loire BlueDiscovery 4

i just switch it off SS is bad stupid idea saving no fuel at all just damaging on the motor

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United Kingdom 2016 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 Landmark LE Auto Waitomo GreyDiscovery 4

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I just switch it off - SS is bad stupid idea saving no fuel at all just damaging on the motor


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Scotland 2015 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 SE Auto Causeway GreyDiscovery 4

I turned off the SS using the IID tool as I was concerned that on a sweltering day with much stopping in the motorway traffic the fridge in the caravan would not remain cool. A while later I tried to turn it back on again but it has just disappeared. I don't think I miss it.
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Wales 2016 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 Landmark LE Auto Waitomo GreyDiscovery 4

It looks at the brake pedal to say that you want to stop and it relies on a pressure threshold to start. If you then move the shifter to neutral and apply the EPB you can take your foot off the brake but if you’re in D then you have drive away release on EPB so you need to add brake pedal to keep the car stationary.
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My 2011 A8 did this, utterly stupid. Later 2017 BMW had fixed it so it behaved properly, I think this may be a 'characteristic' of the earlier designs.
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Is there another way of permanently disabling the Start/Stop without using a diagnostic tool, i.e removing a fuse? I always turn mine off on the switch but the light on the dash is really annoying and bright at night.
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MRWOO wrote:
Is there another way of permanently disabling the Start/Stop without using a diagnostic tool, i.e removing a fuse? I always turn mine off on the switch but the light on the dash is really annoying and bright at night.


It is part of the emmissions system for euro 6 certification so cannot be permanently disabled . So you need to live with it ,personally I dont see the issue with it and very rarely even notice when its working.
  
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grzesiul
 


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Poland 2016 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 SE Auto Loire BlueDiscovery 4

cos you SS battery died or main one is on its way out and Censored stopped responding lol
  
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galwaygreen
 


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United Kingdom 2016 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 Graphite LE Auto Loire BlueDiscovery 4

how old is the s/s battery ?ours lasted 5 years...just dont bother with it now...amber light on all the time..no prob
  
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Is the amber light not an MOT fail then?
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galwaygreen
 


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not at the moment in our case,,,i thought like you but was surprised
  
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United Kingdom 2014 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 Commercial XS Auto Santorini BlackDiscovery 4

I can’t see what is illogical about that behaviour?

The SS will restart if the brake pedal isn’t pushed. Total logic to me! It may not suit your requirements but it is logical.


If you click one to the left in neutral it will stay on won’t it? I’ll check later.
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England 2016 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 Landmark LE Auto ZanzibarDiscovery 4

Hmmm. Something must have been changed. On my 2016 model, if I stop, the S/S operates as it should. With my foot still on the brake pedal, I put on the park brake and put it into neutral, the engine remains off when I take my foot off the brake pedal. Foot on the brake and back into gear, the engine starts when pressure on the brake pedal is lifted.
  
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