Member Since: 01 Oct 2015
Location: Edinburgh
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Stop Start - illogical behaviour
When my car has warmed up, battery is charged, foot on the brake pedal at lights, the engine stops and the ECO light on the dashboard lights up. All well and good.
However, if I do handbrake and neutral, or even just handbrake and foot off the pedal to avoid blinding the drivers behind me, then the engine starts again. Doh! The car is still stationary and the only difference is that my foot is off the pedal. That behaviour seems daft to me.
Handbrake and gear knob in P will stop the engine again.
Is there anyway to prevent the engine starting again when I take my foot off the pedal even though the handbrake is on?D1 300Tdi - gone
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10th Jan 2022 9:23 am
grzesiul
Member Since: 11 May 2008
Location: UK
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i just switch it off SS is bad stupid idea saving no fuel at all just damaging on the motor
I just switch it off - SS is bad stupid idea saving no fuel at all just damaging on the motor
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I turned off the SS using the IID tool as I was concerned that on a sweltering day with much stopping in the motorway traffic the fridge in the caravan would not remain cool. A while later I tried to turn it back on again but it has just disappeared. I don't think I miss it.A vaccine does not stop you catching a virus, or passing it on, or getting ill from it, really ill. It does reduce the likelyhood of you dying when really, really ill. Stay Alive - KEEP AWAY FROM PEOPLE.
It looks at the brake pedal to say that you want to stop and it relies on a pressure threshold to start. If you then move the shifter to neutral and apply the EPB you can take your foot off the brake but if you’re in D then you have drive away release on EPB so you need to add brake pedal to keep the car stationary.1972 Range Rover Classic 2 door V8
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10th Jan 2022 4:11 pm
MRWOO
Member Since: 26 Jun 2010
Location: Cheshire
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Is there another way of permanently disabling the Start/Stop without using a diagnostic tool, i.e removing a fuse? I always turn mine off on the switch but the light on the dash is really annoying and bright at night.1964 Series IIA SWB Truck Cab - gone
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10th Jan 2022 4:19 pm
M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
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Fit a lower amp main battery It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
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10th Jan 2022 5:49 pm
popsdosh
Member Since: 09 Nov 2009
Location: cambs
Posts: 442
MRWOO wrote:
Is there another way of permanently disabling the Start/Stop without using a diagnostic tool, i.e removing a fuse? I always turn mine off on the switch but the light on the dash is really annoying and bright at night.
It is part of the emmissions system for euro 6 certification so cannot be permanently disabled . So you need to live with it ,personally I dont see the issue with it and very rarely even notice when its working.
11th Jan 2022 6:50 pm
grzesiul
Member Since: 11 May 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 6405
cos you SS battery died or main one is on its way out and stopped responding lol
11th Jan 2022 6:55 pm
galwaygreen
Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: plymouth
Posts: 6525
how old is the s/s battery ?ours lasted 5 years...just dont bother with it now...amber light on all the time..no prob
12th Jan 2022 12:14 am
Huggs153
Member Since: 15 Nov 2012
Location: Surrey
Posts: 192
Is the amber light not an MOT fail then?Huggs.
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25th Mar 2022 9:42 pm
galwaygreen
Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
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not at the moment in our case,,,i thought like you but was surprised
26th Mar 2022 12:25 am
s60r
Member Since: 14 Mar 2021
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 287
I can’t see what is illogical about that behaviour?
The SS will restart if the brake pedal isn’t pushed. Total logic to me! It may not suit your requirements but it is logical.
If you click one to the left in neutral it will stay on won’t it? I’ll check later.A mod a week until I have nothing to improve or add.
26th Mar 2022 9:23 am
nigel207
Member Since: 26 Mar 2009
Location: Nottinghamshire
Posts: 1359
Hmmm. Something must have been changed. On my 2016 model, if I stop, the S/S operates as it should. With my foot still on the brake pedal, I put on the park brake and put it into neutral, the engine remains off when I take my foot off the brake pedal. Foot on the brake and back into gear, the engine starts when pressure on the brake pedal is lifted.
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stopped responding lol
