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Blue, I visit Gibraltar a lot and have friends in Spain that can possibly sort out a trail. I will see what I can do. Brian
11th Sep 2005 4:17 pm
panosko
Member Since: 06 Nov 2005
Location: Athens
Posts: 21
Hello from Athens, Greece.
Guys, my TDV6 is finally here , and waiting for me to deliver it after 8 months of waiting!! But I'm in big troubles. I drove a Lexus RX400H and I just fell in love with that car. I just don't know what to do. Should I go for the TDV6 (that I was waiting so long, but love broke in the meantime) or should I go for the Hybrid super-SUV? It's more economical , it's much faster, it has loads of electronics and has nothing to put extra after the buy (LR needs lot of money for extras). The only thing that the LR is better, is off-road. But -heck- how much off-road do we go anyway!!!! HEEEELLLPPPPP!!!!! I need opinions NOWWWW!!!
8th Nov 2005 8:22 pm
Gareth Site Moderator
Member Since: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Bramhall
Posts: 26777
Ohh deary dear what can we say? perhaps you should ask the LEXUS400H.CO.UK forum the same question. Oh sorry, you can't find it, well that speaks volumes doesnt it.
I think the Lexus is probably a very good car, it will never break, and will do everything abslutely perfectly, but, it will have NO SOUL. Don't Do It, you will regret it.
8th Nov 2005 8:41 pm
panosko
Member Since: 06 Nov 2005
Location: Athens
Posts: 21
Gareth wrote:
Ohh deary dear what can we say? perhaps you should ask the LEXUS400H.CO.UK forum the same question. Oh sorry, you can't find it, well that speaks volumes doesnt it.
I think the Lexus is probably a very good car, it will never break, and will do everything abslutely perfectly, but, it will have NO SOUL. Don't Do It, you will regret it.
Have no soul? eghm....why...the LR3 has? where is it? By the way, there is a forum for Lexus at http://us.lexusownersclub.com/forums/index.php
Any serious reason that I will regret it? I can't find nothing bad to say for the LexusRX400H , when for the TDV6 I keep thinking: spare wheel, Ford Transit rear side, seats, many extras to buy after purchase.......so...?
8th Nov 2005 11:46 pm
Penguin
Member Since: 02 Dec 2005
Location: A fun place
Posts: 485
Belgium is alive In a time of chimpanzees, I was a penguin. www.m-release.com
2nd Dec 2005 12:12 pm
Desarzens
Member Since: 23 Nov 2005
Location: Crassier
Posts: 81
I tested it and decided to go for a TDV6...
Ok I was in need of a six seater... but found that :
- less confortable than the disco
- behave like a big powerfull front-wheel drive, especially during the acceleration phase
- fuel consumption higher than claimed... about 11l for 100km driving as any responsible father of 3 should...
Up to you to decide... beside delivery time here 6 months
2nd Dec 2005 12:49 pm
adara
Member Since: 14 Nov 2005
Location: Eastern Europe
Posts: 152
Panosko, the Lexus looks like a vacuum cleaner, it is not an offroader and yes, it has worse seats than the Disco (I kept sliding in it). Although I had my share of trouble with my car, as Gareth says it has a soul and I'm totally in love with it. But if one has to explain all that to you maybe you shouldn't even be here?
3rd Dec 2005 6:27 am
panosko
Member Since: 06 Nov 2005
Location: Athens
Posts: 21
I've made quite a lot research and I know that the Lexus is not an offroader at all. However, it has much better fuel consumption than the TDV6, it can be driven to the center of the town any without admittance, there are no taxes to pay for that car (hybrid), generally less cost in every way you see it. Anyway, the fact is that I finaly got my ordered TDV6 base 7-seater with rear locking diff. and alpine roof, and I have to forget about the Lexus. Now, I'll see if my decision was correct by first hand.LR3 TDV6, Base 7-seat, Alpine roof, rear locking diff.
3rd Dec 2005 12:27 pm
JMG
Member Since: 26 Jan 2006
Location: Prague
Posts: 6
Old and new
Hi there, just a fast question:
Will the NAV system willl be also working for Easten Europe countries, like the Czech Republic? I just order a LRS HSE but the dealer or the importeur in Prague are not that clead about the Navtech license for these countries...
I just sold my old disco 1 TDI from 97, feel bit of sad after all these years...Don't Imitate, Innovate.
26th Jan 2006 8:04 am
Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Patching, Sussex
Posts: 15496
Welcome JMG. I'm sorry I don't know, it might be better in the general or technical forums as its a bit quiet out here!DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
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26th Jan 2006 8:49 am
AN
Member Since: 26 Jul 2005
Location: Hungary
Posts: 327
When I asked couple of month ago the local dealer, I was told that there is no map for Hungary or for countries behind the iron curtain, but Czech can be an exception as some factory fitted NAV (like Navteq) has map for Czech. Local dealer should know exactly......
Regards, ANLR D3 S Black, Auto TDV6
26th Jan 2006 12:39 pm
Bogblaster
Member Since: 17 Nov 2005
Location: Glawstershire
Posts: 539
Czech Maps
JMG, dobry den. My wife is Czech and I am sorry to tell you that the maps in the Disco stop about 500m from Rozvadov. I drove to the Cz three times
last year, the 2nd and 3rd time I took a Tomtom Go 700 with me and used that when I got to the border. I have asked LR if they plan to release a new map DVD incorporating Cz and their replay was "we don't know" However the tomtom maps work well and I found my way all around Moravia and Bohemia without any problems. I am sure LR will eventually get around to incorporating it into the DVD, however our other car is a Volvo and their maps; which include The Cz are on 3 DVD's not 1. So perhaps they will release an Eastern Europen DVD at an additional cost D4 HSE Luxury SDV6,
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26th Jan 2006 5:10 pm
BN
Member Since: 18 Mar 2005
Location: Here
Posts: 6463
There is a slight problem with east europe because the Americans did not map it due to obvious political reasons. I have lived with this problem for ages and used Garmin and wrote our own tracks, using bread crumb trails.
I don't think there will be a quick fix for that region for some time.
26th Jan 2006 7:18 pm
10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
Posts: 16534
completely the opposite is true there, the mapping is just as, if not more accurate, it is not available publicly due to licencing concerns - i.e. the proliferation of software copyright theft in eastern europe and that the US government class most software as a 'weapon' and therefore restricted in its export. as was the case with the PGP (encryption) software
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