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A bit confused if anyone of the people involved in this excellent thread are offering one of these for sale ,if so im definately in the market for one pm me with a cost as a remote fbh controller is my next must have treatMY05 SE D3 Manual my first LR what a car
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19th Oct 2014 6:17 pm
Chris532
Member Since: 16 Sep 2014
Location: Northeast
Posts: 111
This looks just like what I'm after. Will the end product be for sale and how much is the estimated cost of the device ?
Thanks,
Chris.
19th Oct 2014 6:24 pm
discostick
Member Since: 08 Nov 2012
Location: Kent
Posts: 317
alex_pescaru wrote:
Thank you very much for sharing!
Question, if I may... Which program used for PCB design and 3D modeling?
I, for one, for PCB design, am using OrCAD but now I am searching for more intuitive alternatives.
Alex,
I used Designspark for this. Its really not too bad for this kind of work.
Otherwise we use Altium at work, but its costly!
19th Oct 2014 7:09 pm
discostick
Member Since: 08 Nov 2012
Location: Kent
Posts: 317
Thanks for all the interest.
My plans are to get my prototype board next week and start final testing. Once i am happy with it all i will consider getting a batch made up for other forum members.
I have spoken to the guys that make these remotes, i have used them for a few projects in the past and they are some of the best RF kit on the market, they are looking at a custom design for the overlay on the remote control - Maybe a Disco3 special
The cost...... I guess it would be no more than a new tyre once i have packaged it all up..... 8)
19th Oct 2014 7:23 pm
Chris532
Member Since: 16 Sep 2014
Location: Northeast
Posts: 111
Thanks for the reply discostick
Ill have one once they are done. If i can help by giving any feedback i will.. Im also handy with a soldering iron
19th Oct 2014 7:39 pm
discostick
Member Since: 08 Nov 2012
Location: Kent
Posts: 317
alex_pescaru wrote:
Thank you very much for sharing!
Question, if I may... Which program used for PCB design and 3D modeling?
I, for one, for PCB design, am using OrCAD but now I am searching for more intuitive alternatives.
Forgot to say, I use autodesk Inventor for 3D modelling / mechanical stuff.
19th Oct 2014 9:44 pm
VMatas
Member Since: 26 Jan 2012
Location: Rybnik
Posts: 152
alex_pescaru wrote:
Thank you very much for sharing!
Question, if I may... Which program used for PCB design and 3D modeling?
I, for one, for PCB design, am using OrCAD but now I am searching for more intuitive alternatives.
As most intuitive design system you can try Proteus Design Suite http://www.labcenter.com/index.cfm . In addition to schematic and PCB design it has a good simulator, capable simulate microcontrollers - you always can debug your project before its implementation in to hardware
20th Oct 2014 5:02 am
Narpy
Member Since: 18 Jul 2011
Location: Stockport
Posts: 7830
I'm kinda struggling to see what the advantages are over this design and the trusted 1533 timer with remote switch.
This certainly doesn't look any cheaper of a method when 1533 timers are around £60 each or is this going to be more expensive yet cheaper than the BAS unit?
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20th Oct 2014 6:07 am
Jay666d
Member Since: 11 Feb 2014
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The advantage that I can see, and the bit I'm most excited about would be the fact it can be operated by the LR button... Is there a downside? Do I have to be an auto electrician to make this work?07 Land Rover Discovery III HSE
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20th Oct 2014 6:15 am
alex_pescaru
Member Since: 19 Dec 2010
Location: RO
Posts: 270
Advantage(s)?
Let's see... As said,
1. Can be wired on the car's remote because
2. Works with the car awake when 1533 doesn't and
3. Cost only a few quids (up to 10 for the basic design) if you know to make it yourself because all is given on the first post.
4. ....
So Narpy, can you find a below 10 pounds FBH remote starting system?...
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20th Oct 2014 9:17 am
alex_pescaru
Member Since: 19 Dec 2010
Location: RO
Posts: 270
VMatas, Altium isn't the old Proteus?
LE... Sorry, now I see Altium was named Protel, not Proteus.... A confusion of terms...
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20th Oct 2014 9:29 am
VMatas
Member Since: 26 Jan 2012
Location: Rybnik
Posts: 152
Altium(former Protel + PCAD) is a good software, but too heavy for our projects I'm very happy with Proteus and its simulation capabilities.
20th Oct 2014 9:43 am
Narpy
Member Since: 18 Jul 2011
Location: Stockport
Posts: 7830
alex_pescaru wrote:
So Narpy, can you find a below 10 pounds FBH remote starting system?...
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alex_pescaru, the remote on it's own costs well over £10 before you've started making any circuit boards and adding in wiring, project box, profit etc. so I don't think your money logic stacks up somehow.
The units being described here will not be sold for less than £10.Mods:
Front Fogs + Halos
FBH Remote Control
The 1st Ever RRS Modded Grill
Garmin Nuvi + D4 Surround + Reversing Camera.
D4 Steering Wheel.
Rear Boot Spoiler.
Twin Brake Lights.
Wing Mirror Indicator Repeaters.
Long Roof Rails
Make your own Narpy grill thread
I'm not scared, I'm outta here.
The one I had made for me (basic design with minor mods) cost less that £10 (Cost not commercial sell!) - probably nearer £5 - but it was a prototype and the board was not a pucker etched one, but a piece of vero board I think (Can't see cos its all potted up)
The ones being suggested here are a lot more complicated and will cost a lot more.
I still have to fit mine properly and also the GSM remote (I had the timer but it bust for several reasons, including dodgy soldering on my part - so the remote is already in my box of bits!) Just need to find the time and more relevant the space in the car to fit it all.
It seems to me that you either go for a simple (Ie basic option) or Pete Bells solution, unless you really are into experimental workings and have the capability to do all the design building etc.
If someone does sell them commercially, then you are into a whole bag of worms from a liability perspective. IMHO!Mark.
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20th Oct 2014 12:29 pm
discostick
Member Since: 08 Nov 2012
Location: Kent
Posts: 317
For me, the reason I am replacing my 1533 with this project is, as already said by others:
*it works with the LR remote (although i have now added an aftermarket RF remote module to mine as i wanted my 3rd button programmed to suspension height adjustment).
*Works with the car awake ! Huge benefit over the 1533, i can open the doors and not interrupt the heating.
*Run to a temperature set point, i much prefer this to a timed run, its more efficient.
*Clears fault when i start it, last year i had mine lock-out a few times due to failed start attempts, which was a pain having to lift the bonnet, remove the fuse and reset the unit. This way it will never lock out, if it failed to start I get a long buzzer tone and the red LED flashes for 30 mins after the failed attempt. If you have a well-behaved heater this isn’t such a problem.
*Diagnostic port, i added this so I can hook up my laptop if/when I get a fault crop up. I also like to play with the Thermotest software, I cant help myself. You can do with this with an ODB cable and splicing some wires, but i wanted it all in one neat comm/usb port.
*Prime button, so i can do my 6 monthly prime sequence without having to get my laptop out. Or just to show my mates the smoke cloud it produces on burn-off.
Then I got carried away and added a *red fault LED, an *output to run a LED to show its Running, a *cut off when the battery is getting too low and an *LED to show its priming (you cant always hear the fuel pump).
I’ve had this running for a few months now, I didn’t like having prototype boards under the bonnet so I got the PCB made.
For some people the 1533 is sufficient. I wanted more, so I made a project of it.
And most of all, its in a neat / compact unit.
I planned to make 3 or 4 boards to share with some friends/family/colleagues, but did appreciate some more "experienced" forum users offering to test these before I shared the unit around. Sometimes it’s hard to see the wood for the trees when you have spent so many hours working on it.
The units on the market were more than I was hoping to spend and didn't offer everything i wanted, this did cost more than the 1533 solution overall, but it was worth it. It offered me more functionality at half the price of the best solutions out there.
If I was to have left it in a “development†state, it can be done cheaper, but I find it hard to leave things alone until they are somewhat perfected, so a PCB, custom enclosure, quality components and an expandable configuration were my goal.
Glad this project is still getting so much interest ! Alex did a great job kicking this off.
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