Member Since: 16 Feb 2007
Location: sydney
Posts: 34
Air suspension question
In the owners manual it says one reason the air suspension may fail would be due to no gas. I raise and lower my car everytime I get in and out which could be around 20 times a day. Would I expect the gas to run out very soon and if I need to regas how expensive will this be
I thought the only gas in it was made up of nitrogen, oxygen and a few others; i.e air. (although with my mechanical knowledge, it could have all sorts of stuff being used that I don't know about)
I have been lowering and raising mine several times a day for 18months now and no such problems!
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23rd May 2007 10:40 am
kenso
Member Since: 29 Aug 2006
Location: NSW
Posts: 111
Air
Ah Jamo...... you may want to edit that last line before the smart##### wake up
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'05 LR3 Zambezi Silver
ARB Bull Bar
Superwinch EP9.0
Rasta Sill Guards
Land Rover Raised Air Intake
Hannibal Roof Rack
Rear Access Ladder
I have heard from one of the LR dealers that they are starting get concerned about the weight of, and modifications required at installation, of the ARB bull bar. I have heard... that they are even starting to dishonour warranty around air suspension problems if an ARB bar is fitted at some dealers... claims that the repositioning and ? of the air lines when installing the ARB bar, and the weight of the bar might be causing issues...
Now - this is just what I've heard... It's hard to imagine that the extra ? 30-50kg ? of the bar would cause the problems - does that mean they won't honour warranty if I gain an extra 50kg (I know that my wife won't honour any warranty!) and make the air suspension work harder???
Just some thoughts - anyone else heard of problems?
cheers,
SimonD3 - Buckingham Blue, SE, TDV6, 06 model; chipped; underbody armour; Mickey Thompson ATZ 275/65-18 AND MAXXIS Bighorn muddies; rear wheel carrier from 4x4intelligence.com; iPOD aux connection! GME 3200 UHF - aerial mounted on wheel carrier ; LR roof rails/cross bars; Autosafe cargo barrier, Safari Snorkel; Traxide - aux battery; ARB bull bar with Tigerz11 winch; Lightforce 240 XGT driving lights (mitchell bros tow hitch to come)
25th May 2007 6:38 am
caverD3
Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
Posts: 6922
my front suspension is lower than the rear, slower to raise and by not as much, very little difference between off road and extended mode but super extended more obvious.
Is it the bar or just normal?
I bought mine new with the ARB bar thrugh the dealer so they wouldn't want to try to knock back a warranty.
Anyway isn't there a LR winch which must weigh more than the difference between a bar and the LR bumper.“There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
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D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
That's true - the LR winch plus cradle etc must weigh at least as much.
But yes - I've also heard that LR won't fit aftermarket accessories themselves prior to delivery either...
cheersD3 - Buckingham Blue, SE, TDV6, 06 model; chipped; underbody armour; Mickey Thompson ATZ 275/65-18 AND MAXXIS Bighorn muddies; rear wheel carrier from 4x4intelligence.com; iPOD aux connection! GME 3200 UHF - aerial mounted on wheel carrier ; LR roof rails/cross bars; Autosafe cargo barrier, Safari Snorkel; Traxide - aux battery; ARB bull bar with Tigerz11 winch; Lightforce 240 XGT driving lights (mitchell bros tow hitch to come)
25th May 2007 9:08 am
bkehoe
Member Since: 24 Feb 2006
Location: Wexford
Posts: 1481
The LR winch kit weighs around 100KG. I think the engine itself, for example, is only around 250KG, and the winch/bar are a good bit forward of the front wheels, so the load would be greater on the front suspension.IE - 05 D3 TDV6 HSE - Zambezi Silver
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25th May 2007 9:59 am
away
Member Since: 18 Nov 2006
Location: Cossack
Posts: 111
Look in the owner's manual. There is a specific limit for front and rear axle weights. I have an ARB bar and a 9000lb Magnum winch and my front axle is still 200kg under the maximum weight with me in the vehicle. I also have a second battery under the bonnet.
So long as you do not exceed this weight, Land Rover would have no legal right to deny warranty claims. I don't see what the issue is. It takes very little air pressure to carry substantial amounts of weight. With the air bag suspension I had installed in my Pajero it took just 15 psi to raise the suspension to the same height as it was before I hitched up my camper trailer - which exerts 250Kg of downward pressure on the drawbar.
I would hate to think that Land Rover have instructed their stealers to deny these claims....I got away from buying Mitsubishi vehicles because of the continual fight I had every time a warranty issue came up.D4: Expedition Rack, 104 Litre Long Range Tank, Raised Air Intake
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