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trikki
 


Member Since: 16 Feb 2007
Location: sydney
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Australia 
Air suspension question

In the owners manual it says one reason the air suspension may fail would be due to no gas. I raise and lower my car everytime I get in and out which could be around 20 times a day. Would I expect the gas to run out very soon and if I need to regas how expensive will this be
  
Post #16071623rd May 2007 10:27 am
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Jamo
 


Member Since: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Esperance, Western Australia
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What gas?? Confused

I thought the only gas in it was made up of nitrogen, oxygen and a few others; i.e air. (although with my mechanical knowledge, it could have all sorts of stuff being used that I don't know about)

I have been lowering and raising mine several times a day for 18months now and no such problems!

You'll be right! Thumbs Up
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Post #16072223rd May 2007 10:40 am
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kenso
 


Member Since: 29 Aug 2006
Location: NSW
Posts: 111

Australia 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Cairns BlueDiscovery 3
Air

Ah Jamo...... you may want to edit that last line before the smart##### wake up Thumbs Up
  
Post #16103624th May 2007 7:34 am
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Baggy
 


Member Since: 11 Feb 2006
Location: sydney.....in the land of oz
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Australia 2011 Discovery 4 TDV6 SE Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 4

Jamo, you're such a show off........but what about your suspension?







sorry.
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Post #16115724th May 2007 12:39 pm
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dbregman
 


Member Since: 05 Nov 2006
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United States 2005 LR3 4.4 V8 SE Auto Zambezi SilverLR3

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Rasta Sill Guards
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Post #16136424th May 2007 11:30 pm
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simon_arch1
 


Member Since: 10 Apr 2006
Location: Melbourne Australia
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Australia 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham BlueDiscovery 3

OK - bringing this back on topic, sort of....

I have heard from one of the LR dealers that they are starting get concerned about the weight of, and modifications required at installation, of the ARB bull bar. I have heard... that they are even starting to dishonour warranty around air suspension problems if an ARB bar is fitted at some dealers... claims that the repositioning and ? of the air lines when installing the ARB bar, and the weight of the bar might be causing issues...

Now - this is just what I've heard... It's hard to imagine that the extra ? 30-50kg ? of the bar would cause the problems - does that mean they won't honour warranty if I gain an extra 50kg (I know that my wife won't honour any warranty!) and make the air suspension work harder???

Just some thoughts - anyone else heard of problems?

cheers,

Simon
 D3 - Buckingham Blue, SE, TDV6, 06 model; chipped; underbody armour; Mickey Thompson ATZ 275/65-18 AND MAXXIS Bighorn muddies; rear wheel carrier from 4x4intelligence.com; iPOD aux connection! GME 3200 UHF - aerial mounted on wheel carrier Smile; LR roof rails/cross bars; Autosafe cargo barrier, Safari Snorkel; Traxide - aux battery; ARB bull bar with Tigerz11 winch; Lightforce 240 XGT driving lights (mitchell bros tow hitch to come)  
Post #16138325th May 2007 6:38 am
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caverD3
 


Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
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Australia 2012 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 SE Auto Fuji WhiteDiscovery 4

my front suspension is lower than the rear, slower to raise and by not as much, very little difference between off road and extended mode but super extended more obvious.
Is it the bar or just normal?
I bought mine new with the ARB bar thrugh the dealer so they wouldn't want to try to knock back a warranty.
Anyway isn't there a LR winch which must weigh more than the difference between a bar and the LR bumper.
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Post #16141425th May 2007 8:44 am
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simon_arch1
 


Member Since: 10 Apr 2006
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Australia 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham BlueDiscovery 3

That's true - the LR winch plus cradle etc must weigh at least as much.

But yes - I've also heard that LR won't fit aftermarket accessories themselves prior to delivery either...

cheers
 D3 - Buckingham Blue, SE, TDV6, 06 model; chipped; underbody armour; Mickey Thompson ATZ 275/65-18 AND MAXXIS Bighorn muddies; rear wheel carrier from 4x4intelligence.com; iPOD aux connection! GME 3200 UHF - aerial mounted on wheel carrier Smile; LR roof rails/cross bars; Autosafe cargo barrier, Safari Snorkel; Traxide - aux battery; ARB bull bar with Tigerz11 winch; Lightforce 240 XGT driving lights (mitchell bros tow hitch to come)  
Post #16142825th May 2007 9:08 am
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bkehoe
 


Member Since: 24 Feb 2006
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Ireland 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Zambezi SilverDiscovery 3

The LR winch kit weighs around 100KG. I think the engine itself, for example, is only around 250KG, and the winch/bar are a good bit forward of the front wheels, so the load would be greater on the front suspension.
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Post #16145125th May 2007 9:59 am
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away
 


Member Since: 18 Nov 2006
Location: Cossack
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Australia 2012 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Fuji WhiteDiscovery 4

Look in the owner's manual. There is a specific limit for front and rear axle weights. I have an ARB bar and a 9000lb Magnum winch and my front axle is still 200kg under the maximum weight with me in the vehicle. I also have a second battery under the bonnet.

So long as you do not exceed this weight, Land Rover would have no legal right to deny warranty claims. I don't see what the issue is. It takes very little air pressure to carry substantial amounts of weight. With the air bag suspension I had installed in my Pajero it took just 15 psi to raise the suspension to the same height as it was before I hitched up my camper trailer - which exerts 250Kg of downward pressure on the drawbar.

I would hate to think that Land Rover have instructed their stealers to deny these claims....I got away from buying Mitsubishi vehicles because of the continual fight I had every time a warranty issue came up.
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Post #16195327th May 2007 10:57 am
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simon_arch1
 


Member Since: 10 Apr 2006
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Australia 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham BlueDiscovery 3

And there's the value of these forums...

Thanks away - I'll feel better if I do fit an ARB bar re weight limits etc....

cheers,

Simon
 D3 - Buckingham Blue, SE, TDV6, 06 model; chipped; underbody armour; Mickey Thompson ATZ 275/65-18 AND MAXXIS Bighorn muddies; rear wheel carrier from 4x4intelligence.com; iPOD aux connection! GME 3200 UHF - aerial mounted on wheel carrier Smile; LR roof rails/cross bars; Autosafe cargo barrier, Safari Snorkel; Traxide - aux battery; ARB bull bar with Tigerz11 winch; Lightforce 240 XGT driving lights (mitchell bros tow hitch to come)  
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