Advertise on DISCO4.COM
Forum · Gallery · Wiki · Shop · Sponsors
DISCO4.COM > Discovery 5 - L462

Discovery 5 Preview
Post Reply  Down to end
Page 3 of 4 <1234>
DG
Site Moderator 


Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
Posts: 50978

Wales 

The other thing to note is that the 2.0 service is every 21k \ 2 years vs 16k \ 1year on the V6
 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021  
Post #17143312nd Oct 2016 2:53 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
DiscoStu
 


Member Since: 09 Apr 2006
Location: London
Posts: 11412

England 

Suspect 2.0 won't have a transfer box....
 Disco 5 HSE Lux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peyiqaJrmMU 
 
Post #17143342nd Oct 2016 2:57 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
J77
 


Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270

Scotland 

S spec has transfer box and its 2.0 only Thumbs Up
 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green  
Post #17143352nd Oct 2016 2:58 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
DG
Site Moderator 


Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
Posts: 50978

Wales 

The whole range is hi\lo as standard ...options for terrain 2 and rear locker
 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021  
Post #17143442nd Oct 2016 3:13 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
LT
 


Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23830

United Kingdom 2016 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 Landmark LE Auto Santorini BlackDiscovery 4

As Americans like to say, "Ain't no replacement for displacement".

I've owned two petrol engines that put out similar bhp. One was a 4 cylinder turbo tuned and mapped to Censored The other was a naturally aspirated V8, incredibly under stressed. Both great to drive, but the V8 was so much more relaxing and flexible.
 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired) 
 
Post #17145362nd Oct 2016 8:36 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
CFB
 


Member Since: 02 Dec 2005
Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
Posts: 6100

United Kingdom 

I really think you need to drive both before making any judgement, I'm pretty sure the 2.0 will be up to the job but there's no substitute for a proper test run.
  
Post #17154464th Oct 2016 7:42 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Send e-mail Reply with quote
Russell
 


Member Since: 23 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
Posts: 10564

United Kingdom 

I think the 2.0 lt will be up to the job solo but think it might be put under a lot of extra strain towing especially if you tow the 3.5 tons.
 MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
MY15 D4 HSE Kaikoura Stone
MY12 D4 HSE Nara Bronze Sold and gone
MY11 D4 HSE Stornaway Grey Sold and gone
D3 S spec Silver Sold and gone
Tow bar, full length roof bars, side steps, tow bar storage unit, surround camers.
D4 camera club 
 
Post #17154504th Oct 2016 7:49 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Send e-mail Reply with quote
markate
 


Member Since: 17 Sep 2011
Location: England
Posts: 704

2016 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Aintree GreenDiscovery 4

Towing limit on entry level models is 2500kg not 3500kg.
  
Post #17154714th Oct 2016 8:09 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
J77
 


Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270

Scotland 

The brochure says 3500kg for the 2.0 240 SD4, Perhaps the 180 SD4 but that's not available in the UK Confused
 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green  
Post #17154784th Oct 2016 8:16 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
dgardel
 


Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: Greater Venice
Posts: 2025

Italy 2014 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 XXV LE Auto Santorini BlackDiscovery 4

muddywheels4wd wrote:
How can V6 only have 18bhp more than 2.0 ingenium Shocked


No replacement to displacement......
 Discovery 5 tdv6 HSE Corris Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

IID Pro MV License

 
 
Post #17155034th Oct 2016 8:55 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Send e-mail Reply with quote
Red Merle
 


Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441

United Kingdom 

markate wrote:
Towing limit on entry level models is 2500kg not 3500kg.


Could it be related to the steel spring option?
 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as โ€œsecondโ€ cars ๐Ÿ™„

2021 to date: Hinckley built โ€˜14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built โ€˜14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!) 
 
Post #17155164th Oct 2016 9:18 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
fisherman
 


Member Since: 16 Jan 2007
Location: Hornchurch Essex
Posts: 1789

Wales 

The smaller displacement engines nowadays do seem a lot more powerful than I expected them to be. My wifes VW Golf 1.4 TSi was an amazing little lump that really made the car fly. I don't know how I feel about the 2.0ltr pulling my 2500kg caravan but the power output is as good as my existing D4 (nearly). I currently have 256BHP and 500NM and the 2.0ltr is 240BHP and 500NM. The savings on fuel as most of my non towing driving is spent in busy old suburbia would be very welcome. As stated before, I think the side by side test needs to be done to settle my mind. I would love the opportunity to tow side by side.
 FFRR 2017 4.4SDV8 Autobiography. Cost so much I must be mad!
D4 HSE 2012 Like a second wife, more expensive but goes better! I almost cried this time!
D3 HSE 2006 (Almost 8 years together, true love)
Land Cruiser VX 1994 11 years together, wife cried when I p/ex'd for my D3 
 
Post #17155975th Oct 2016 7:19 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
dantheman
 


Member Since: 12 Mar 2010
Location: Essex
Posts: 1738

England 2009 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 3

I thought D4s had 600Nm of torque?? Confused
  
Post #17156055th Oct 2016 7:41 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
fisherman
 


Member Since: 16 Jan 2007
Location: Hornchurch Essex
Posts: 1789

Wales 

The later EU6 model does whereas the EU5 doesn't.
 FFRR 2017 4.4SDV8 Autobiography. Cost so much I must be mad!
D4 HSE 2012 Like a second wife, more expensive but goes better! I almost cried this time!
D3 HSE 2006 (Almost 8 years together, true love)
Land Cruiser VX 1994 11 years together, wife cried when I p/ex'd for my D3 
 
Post #17156105th Oct 2016 7:57 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Red Merle
 


Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441

United Kingdom 

Lost for Words wrote:
Red Merle wrote:
Click image to enlarge


Torque is measured on a dyno, bhp is calculated by effectively simply multiplying torque at any given engine speed, by the relevant number of rpm (I wish someone had told me that simple truth many years before I found out!).

Notice how much earlier the torque curve rises on the V6:

1000 rpm on the SD4 provides 250NM, while the same speed on the V6 provides 300NM
1500 rpm on the SD4 provides 500NM, while the same speed on the V6 provides 600NM


That's where you notice the low down pull of the V6.


The SD4 never rises above 500NM and goes into decline from 2500rpm
The V6 holds on to 600NM until 2300 rpm and doesn't dip beneath 500NM until 3500rpm. Notice the "bulge" that causes in the BHP at the same engine speeds


That's where you notice the instant and broad range of overtaking urge of the V6


Maximum bhp on the V6 comes in at 3750rpm, while it has to have a further 250rpm for the TD4 to achieve a figure that's around 15 BHP lower.

This is where you have to rev it harder to achieve BHP figures that come close to offsetting the lack of bottom end torque.


On the plus side, the TD4's torque curve is nice and flat in the mid range, which gives for a nice progressive increase in BHP as the revs rise, although it can be a bit dull as that kind of curve can make it feel a bit like an electric motor!


Rough plot of the two together:

Click image to enlarge


This might just be worth one more airing....
 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as โ€œsecondโ€ cars ๐Ÿ™„

2021 to date: Hinckley built โ€˜14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built โ€˜14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!) 
 
Post #17156165th Oct 2016 8:14 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Display posts from the last:  
Post Reply Back to top
Page 3 of 4 <1234>
Jump to:  
Previous Topic | Next Topic >


Posting Rules
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



DISCO4.COM Copyright © 2004-2024 Futuranet Ltd & Martin Lewis
DISCO3.CO.UK RSS Feed - All Forums

DISCO4.COM is independent and not affiliated to Land Rover.
Switch to Mobile Site