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Getafix
 


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Why 17's off road???

It seems to me, from my limited observation, (pick the guy who doesn't have a clue about 4 wheel driving), that many people choose to have 17's off road. Why??

My limited logic tells me, that an 18 or 19 inch rim would give more ground clearance, (all other things being equal). So, why not have 19's that would give an extra inch of clearance??? With same sidewall height, this, on face value, would seem to be the way to go.

Anyone happy to take the time to share why I am off track here (if you will pardon the pun).

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Wheel size increases, sidewall depth decreases. Look at a pic of a car with 17s on then one with 19s and you'll see the sidewall is shallower on the latter. The overall height of the wheel/tyre combo is the same (within half an inch or so) regardless.

17s are popular as they give more sidewall, hence the potential for more flex and more scope for reducing pressures to increase your tyre footprint on sand. That said, the 19" MTR never seems to give anyone any problems (apart from getting hold of them for a reasonable price).
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The larger the rim, the lower the tyre profile so that you end up with the same diameter . circumference of tread.

Small rim + fat tyre = comfy ride, ease of climbing rocks / roots etc but a wishy-washy high-speed cornering.

Large rim + thin tyre = super road holding, bruised bum on potholed roads and ruined sidewalls when offroading

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The rolling radius of 17", 18" 19" and even 20" will all be the same.
Cos of this, the larger the wheel, the less height on the sidewall.
The bigger the sidewall, the less the rims are prone to damage.


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ya beat me, ND Bow down
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The overall dimension of the wheel + tyre combination doesn't really make THAT much difference to ground clearance.
The biggest reason for the 17/18 vs 19" wheels is that when yoiu are extreme off roading or in particularly rocky terrain, the sidewalls of the 17" have greater distance between the rock and the wheel that the 19" do. Thereby reducing the possible damage to the actual wheel.

20" wheels would be damaged very quickly as there would be less tyre sidewall to take up the impact.

The smaller the wheel, the thicker the rubber needs to be around it to keep to the same overall height.
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[Edit] You lot are all just too quick today.... Embarassed
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I thank you Mr. Green
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Well I said it in the fewest words!
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Just trying to provide as thorough an answer as possible in a short amount of time...
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Got it. Much appreciated all. Almost fell out of my chair with the speed of the responses.

As we say, "bonza mate"

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It took 7 minutes, i'm pretty disapointed by that Al.... Smile
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AndrewW wrote:

Large rim + thin tyre = super road holding, bruised bum on potholed roads and ruined sidewalls when offroading


Thats a bold statement Wink 19" MTR's are the weapon of choice for most of the regular off-roaders here not many ruined sidewalls I know of Rolling Eyes 18" with the new AT2's are gaining popularity too. The main reason that 17's are popular is because of greater terrain tyre type & availability TBH
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Minutes, Shminutes.....

Hey Getafix, is that a DarwinFish in your signature? Looks remarkably like this one....



Been meaning to get one for the back of my car Twisted Evil
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NoDo$h wrote:
is that a DarwinFish - Been meaning to get one for the back of my car Twisted Evil


http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=h...f%26sa%3DG
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