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Andrew van den Heever
Member Since: 09 Jun 2007
Location: Cape Town
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Hi guys, opinion please.
I have seen only a handful of Disco 3's with ARB bars. The bar looks like a really good product, OK but does change the Disco's look a bit. Is there a reason why people are choosing not to fit this product. Judging by all the plastic at the front of the Disco it seems like a good idea. Heine, Baben, Deondef,... you guys have any thoughts?
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 15th Oct 2007 8:34 am |
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Deondef
Member Since: 08 May 2007
Location: Randburg
Posts: 790
 
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Andrew
I think it has a lot to do with personal taste. My D3 is the first brand new 4X4 I have bought - the other 8 all 2nd or 3rd hand. At this stage I want to keep the vehicle as standard as possible, so I did not even fit the ladder for the roof-rack. I am also very worried about all the plastic - but the front protection plate (fitted by BRS) looks very neat and should protect most off-road "mishaps".
I can do with spots, but would rather see if I can get the standard fitted as per SE and HSE specs.
On ARB itself - I am sure it is a good product - also check with LR on air bag deployment, etc issues before fitting.
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| 15th Oct 2007 9:50 am |
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Andrew van den Heever
Member Since: 09 Jun 2007
Location: Cape Town
Posts: 340
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Thanks Deon.
I spoke to the ARB rep here who said the airbag sensors were no problem but I haven't spoken to LR. On the issue of spots, I have heard that the Xenons are so good that when you turn on the spots you can't even see them. Any idea how I can source the BRS plate here in CT?
By the way, did you see the pic of the poor sap in his Toyota getting pulled out of the mud by my Landrover this weekend (previous post)?!
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| 15th Oct 2007 9:59 am |
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Deondef
Member Since: 08 May 2007
Location: Randburg
Posts: 790
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Andrew
It is actualy a Mantech plate which BRS fits. BRS website: www.brsoffroad.co.za. Tel: 011 834 4951/2.
Talk to Karl - I am sure he will be able to steer you in the right direction in Cape Town area .
Yes - saw the pic - great stuff!!! -
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| 15th Oct 2007 10:25 am |
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Andrew van den Heever
Member Since: 09 Jun 2007
Location: Cape Town
Posts: 340
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Hey Deon, thanks for the advice. I will give him a call.
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| 15th Oct 2007 10:31 am |
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Baben
Member Since: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Kyalami
Posts: 2059
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Hi Andrew
I concur with Deon re the front protection plate. Seeing as most of my offroad driving is Kaokoveld style, I didn't really need much more. I don't really like the look of the steel bumpers to be honest, plus I am not sure what all that weight would do for the on-road handling either.
But - it all comes down to what your needs are and what style works for you.
On the spots - if you have the Zenon lights (SE and HSE) you would be wasting your money and time. They look great, but don't make any difference IMHO. I had huge IPF's that I removed after the accident, they didn't add any extra visibility that I could judge, but again, if you like the look, go for it. Its your dosh at the end of the day.
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| 15th Oct 2007 10:56 am |
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caverD3
Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
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ARB bar is compatable with the air bags, I mine put on by the dealer before I bought it.
I got one because I was always repairing the D2 front bar after reversing out of tussock grass. It also improves the approach angle. I am happy with mine, no graet effect on handling. “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
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| 15th Oct 2007 11:27 am |
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Deondef
Member Since: 08 May 2007
Location: Randburg
Posts: 790
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Baben
While on the subject - can you please give us the part numbers for the "upgrade globes" which you fitted. Is it also as simple as popping Zenon globes into the headlights (for us "S" oakes) ?
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| 15th Oct 2007 11:47 am |
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Baben
Member Since: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Kyalami
Posts: 2059
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Hi Deon
I never upgraded the headlamps, these are the standard Zenon's. I think there is a thread here about upgrading, but I seem to remember it was very difficult and costly, but maybe have a trawl around the site and see.
What I upgraded were the marker lights at the front, plus the tail lights
The LED lamps for interior, rear numberplate and front corner markers are all the same. There are various suppliers I guess. The part numbers from ultraleds.co.uk are:
U5015HPW-501/194/T10 Mini Light Tower 5x WA HB - (you need 17 if you want to do the headlights, numberplate lights, and all interior and doors) There is a newer, brighter version with 9 led's but I suspect it would be too long to fit.
The stop/tail lights are from the same supplier:
U38048R (380) 48 Red stop & tail (pair) - (you need 2 pair) THese are the ones I have, but there is a new part for the stop/tail lamps, also twice as bright - U38020R Ultra Tower 380 S&T > I am not 100% sure but it looks about the same size, hence it should fit.
Let me know when you order, I need a whole bunch more.
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| 16th Oct 2007 5:01 am |
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Craig S-L
Member Since: 16 Jul 2007
Location: Tring, Hertfordshire
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I agree with the comments on the lights, with Adaptive Xenons on full beam the six warns just light up the bonnet and the countryside around. If you are well off the beaten track you could change the direction to give a better light spread to the sides, but to the front they do not add a lot.
Lightforces/IPF HID's may well be better, but not standard fit to G4's  (although they were to LR's heavily modded Def2 in LRO the other month) Craig
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| 16th Oct 2007 8:01 am |
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heine
Member Since: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
Posts: 4054
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Main reason I didn't go for a bullbar is the added weight (about 80 kg according to BRS) and the fact that I don't really feel I need it . Have one on my rangie and defender and all I've used them for is to tap the occasional taxi 
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| 16th Oct 2007 8:14 am |
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Brucehun
Member Since: 09 Oct 2006
Location: Johannesburg
Posts: 106
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Hi guys, long time no speak...have been working my butt off.
I fitted the ARB because of my winch fitment(see gallery). 80kg's on top of 2.5 tonnes does not make any difference,surely?
Hein I agree, makes a great taxi bumper...have already taken out a Swazi Polo two weeks ago on witkoppen with no damage to my ARB.Polo damage R5K!
Airbag sensors do work as well.
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| 18th Oct 2007 10:37 am |
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heine
Member Since: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
Posts: 4054
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Granted that 80 kg's is not a big differance - but I've become a bit anal about weight ever since I weighed my defender and realised it now was 3.4 t because of all the extras added over the years (OK that does include the beer as well )
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| 18th Oct 2007 12:07 pm |
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Andrew van den Heever
Member Since: 09 Jun 2007
Location: Cape Town
Posts: 340
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Heine, by the way what does the official LR bull-bar weigh. It just looks a bit kak and flimsy too. Any experience with it?
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| 18th Oct 2007 12:34 pm |
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heine
Member Since: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
Posts: 4054
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If you mean the A-Frame one speak to Baben , I think he has one. Sounds like it didn't help too much when LR parked his car in the back of some woman
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| 18th Oct 2007 2:11 pm |
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